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welcome back my friends and welcome

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to another intriguing episode

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of the midnight hour show as always my

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name is stephen cambion and i'm your

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host into this journey

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into the unknown

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alien abductions

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alien implants

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what if it were true

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what if all these people

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all around the world telling stories of

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being abducted

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by other worldly beings were true

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what if there was some scientific proof

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some data that we could look at that

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proved that these people

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were not crazy

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but were actually telling the story of

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their experience

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what if

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there are

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extraterrestrial beings visiting planet

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and stealing people

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from their beds at night

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performing

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some kind of experiments

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extracting dna

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and other resources from human

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what if it were true folks

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it's easy to discount

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some of these experiences because many

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of them

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only have stories

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and that's the problem that i've had

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with the whole alien abduction thing

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is that most people

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who claim to be abducted by aliens have

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just a story

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they don't have any proof

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but tonight

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tonight

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we just might get to some proof

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you see i first heard about the man who

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claimed he had that proof

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many years ago

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and i gotta tell you i went down that

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rabbit hole

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dr

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roger lear

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go google it

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go on youtube

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watch everything you can find on this

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if you're a bit like me you will become

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here's a guy who is a doctor

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a trained

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surgeon

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this is not some uneducated stupid man

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who's running around making claims

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when he can't even verify the background

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like some people in this field

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he was a respected podiatrist and

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surgeon

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like many things in this field

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you know there's many layers to this

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onion

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and once you start peeling back the

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i don't know

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something just didn't seem right

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here's a man who is super educated he's

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a doctor he's not a stupid man and he's

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claiming that he's pulling alien

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implants out of

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alien abduction

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and i gotta tell you when i first found

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him i found him to be pretty credible

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because of his education and his

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background and he is who he says he is

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there's so many people in this field

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that make some kind of weird claims

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of having proof of extraterrestrials and

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then you peel back a few layers and you

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oh that guy's not really who he says he

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nobody could ever say that about dr lear

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to his credit his education his

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background and

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but then you start getting a little

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deeper and the claims that here he is

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making are pretty incredible

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you know basically he claims that he

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kind of hooked up with alien abduction

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victims

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he helped those people

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by surgically removing those implants

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now dr lear has been on a few television

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shows about this

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he's also made some claims about having

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that could not have been made on planet

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but i tried really hard like i dug deep

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trying to find that video or that source

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where he was making those claims

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besides the alien implants there are

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dr lear about having some ufo wreckage

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that could not have been made on planet

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but somehow we never get the proof of

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that specific claim

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now on the alien implants

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some of it i find rather suspect because

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you know he's on an episode

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of a television show

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and they're like look it's it's this

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alien implant is putting out this radio

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data but it's just uh him and maybe an

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assistant or something

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yeah it's putting out radio waves

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and then it didn't put out radio waves

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so you know i don't know some of these

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claims are pretty crazy

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kind of a data guy like give me the data

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give me those meter readings give me

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a written report on them

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but we don't get that

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in fact it seems that we never get that

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what we get is some books that he's

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him lecturing at ufo conferences

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always for money he never did that for

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free to my knowledge

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but i could be corrected and if i'm

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wrong anybody can write into our show

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and let us know that he gave free

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lectures on finding proof of

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extraterrestrial life

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to my knowledge he's never given

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free proof of extraterrestrial life it's

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buy my book

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book me and i will lecture

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for your group or your convention

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dr lear passed away not long ago and

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it's terrible to speak ill of the dead

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clear the air and you know i don't want

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to pull some punches because the man's

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recently deceased

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if his claims are true

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he has done a great service to the

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community of people

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who are seeking the truth

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by putting these claims out there but my

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where is the evidence where is the

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written proof

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lab analysis reports i want to see them

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and so does everyone else

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you know these claims are great but he's

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never put up

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the lab reports

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for all these claims that he's making

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access he had access to do that

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if he had the goods

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that these people are actually being

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abducted by aliens and maybe they put

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that's a believable scenario

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gentlemen when marine biologists study

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sharks they tag them

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and they go and find those sharks again

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what if these extraterrestrials that are

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victims or subjects that they are

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have been tagged have been implanted

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with some sort of device

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to help the people studying them find

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me interested in this phenomenon

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what if it were true

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what if we can pull

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some kind of nanotechnology device

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and that's what many have claimed these

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out of one of those victims

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what if we could analyze it under

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laboratory conditions and prove

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that it's a nanotech device

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hundreds or thousands or tens of

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thousands of years ahead of our own

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what if we could take apart

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that that implant could not have been

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made by the human race but somehow it

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was found in the member of the human

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that would be earth shaking my friends

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the holy grail i guess of ufology of of

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everyone looking for proof of

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extraterrestrial life

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if we could take that thing apart and

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really prove that it was not made on

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planet earth that it had some kind of

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that would prove

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the hypothesis that extraterrestrials

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truly are visiting planet earth

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also abducting members of the human race

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and that's what keeps me interested what

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if we could really do that

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but to me folks again i keep on coming

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back to the torn part i'm so torn about

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this because it's tantalizing right it's

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like what if what if this

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what if this was true

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but nobody really has proven it

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we get a lot of claims and we get a lot

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of talk about isotopic ratios

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and that's something that i think

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maybe you know i should have a guest

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that's a material scientist or somebody

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that studies meteors or i don't know

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somebody

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much more

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scientifically trained than me could

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come on our show and explain to us

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like what is this what does this mean

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that these isotopic ratios prove

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that this piece of metal was not

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made on planet earth and more

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importantly

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is this just a piece of a meteor

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or was this actually a manufactured item

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i think that's very important to

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consider in all of this study into this

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phenomenon

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and i have to say that the deeper i dug

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it into this rabbit hole

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the more that i thought

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we needed to find an expert

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in this stuff

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someone who is scientifically trained

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someone who

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was

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you know ideally intimately involved in

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some of this stuff

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and i have to say

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i was really sad when i heard

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that dr lear passed away because i

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always envisioned

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some grand moment when i would get him

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on my show and be able to really pick

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his brain

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and sadly of course since he's passed

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that's not possible

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but

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i think tonight we are still going to

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get incredible insight into the work of

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dr lear

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because tonight we're going to have a

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guest who worked intimately with him

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who is also a scientifically trained

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expert

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someone whose opinion

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i think i will trust

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as being accurate

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and tonight we're gonna get to do that

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we're gonna get to go even deeper down

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the rabbit hole than most people get

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[Music]

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you know

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i have to say

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that

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in my study of all these strange things

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i feel fortunate

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because

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you know

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some people may look into this and they

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kind of you know all you have is what's

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on youtube or the internet

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but lately i've been considering myself

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more fortunate than most because i have

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this show and i have this microphone and

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i have an audience that wants to hear

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about this stuff

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so sometimes just sometimes

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i'm fortunate i'm fortunate enough

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to have some kind of access that most

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people don't get

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access to an expert

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or someone that can come into this

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rabbit hole with me and shed some light

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down that rabbit hole

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i first heard about our guest tonight

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as being someone who worked very closely

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with dr lear

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and i first heard about that

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from a film by extraordinary beliefs

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you can check out their website

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extraordinarybeliefs.com

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it's a film by jeremy corbell

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titled

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patient 17

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and it chronicles the story of the 17th

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patient of dr leader

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this is an amazing film and i think

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everybody interested in this kind of

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stuff should go and check it out

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i first heard about jeremy corbell and

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his films when i was really digging deep

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researching

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bob lazar and he's also got a new film

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coming out

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about bob lazar

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and so i think you should check out his

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work

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but tonight we're going to get deeper

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and deeper into

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this phenomenon

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with a person that worked incredibly

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closely

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with dr lear and have to say this guy

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doesn't want to give interviews

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go see that film this is a hard guy to

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get a hold of and we had to do uh our

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due diligence to get him

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and

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you know get him to agree to the show

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and i have to say like

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you know there's so many naysayers about

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our show and i i don't know man we got a

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lot of like haters lately

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and they always say you can't get that

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interview but we do we get the interview

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you know that's kind of what we do here

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and and it's funny to me

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that so many people

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choose to not believe in our ability to

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bring new information about these

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subjects to the public but we somehow

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always do and tonight is no different my

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friends tonight we're gonna give you

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some good new stuff that you've never

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heard anywhere before because that's

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what we do here on the midnight hour we

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dig deep

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and tonight is no different tonight

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we're going to dig deep into this

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subject and we're going to give you

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new and exciting information that you've

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never heard before anywhere else we're

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going to give you an incredible insight

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into this phenomenon

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and i'm so proud of that and i'm equally

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proud of my producer i gotta say like

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when i started to produce these shows

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you know i was completely on my own and

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it was really like the dark ages of the

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beginning of this show

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and

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things were really tough trying to do

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all this stuff myself and do all this

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research and get guests and all this

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stuff and like

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since we have this producer richard

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booth

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i gotta say like

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the whole show is taking on a new

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elevated status it's just gotten so much

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better

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my producer got our guest tonight to

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agree

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you know and that wasn't an easy thing

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to do i want to thank him for getting us

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this incredible guest

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he's done so much to help make the show

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better and we want to publicly

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acknowledge that and thank him on the

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air for that so thanks to richard booth

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the producer of our show for all of his

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now on to our guest tonight

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his name is stephen colburn and he was

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most recently featured

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in the documentary film

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patient 17.

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he's done a few other

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show appearances as well

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but i would think that most people would

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know him or have seen him

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or heard about him in that

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film

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a little bit about his background you

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know and i'm always interested in

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people's bio like what have they done

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what have they accomplished

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and mr colburn

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appears to be an incredibly accomplished

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person

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and incredibly well educated

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in fact he was an oxnard high school

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graduate with a 4.0 average

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and i think

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one other thing speaks

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to a little bit about him and that is

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that he was an eagle scout with three

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poems

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i was a boy scout most of my childhood

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and

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you know it's one of the big regrets of

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my life i i

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got the rank right before eagle scout

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but i aged out before i could finish

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that last project and get that eagle

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scout

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and i got to tell you

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becoming an eagle scout is really

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difficult it's not an easy thing to do

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and i think that speaks a little bit

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about our guest tonight and maybe

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also

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he earned a bachelor of science degree

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in chemistry

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from ucla in 1989 so his initial

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scientific background as a scientist is

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actually in chemistry

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next he studied as a graduate student at

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ucla in biochemistry

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next in the mid 90s he worked at

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cedars-sinai research institute in los

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angeles

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as a biochemist conducting genetic

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research

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next he became the president of neutron

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star nanotechnology

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uh from 2014 to present and

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uh his work there is described as being

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a carbon nanotube

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scientist

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he's

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also been the senior member of technical

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staff at ytc america from 1999 to

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present

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again in the role as a carbon nanotube

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scientist

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now

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as described in

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the film that he was in patient 17

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he worked as a material scientist for dr

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roger lear

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he's also been a member of the materials

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research society from 2007

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to present

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and also what i found most interesting

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in doing a little digging about him is

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that he holds four patents in scientific

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areas

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and i have to be honest in saying i'm

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really not good at reading patents but

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it it appears to me that all of those

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patents are relating to nano technology

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so

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you know when we talk about

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these alien implants or

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i would say alleged alien implants until

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i know more

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i think there's no one better than this

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man to tell us what are these things

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made of

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what are they elementally comprised of

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what are the what is their function

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i mean the man has a background in

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chemistry in biochemistry and in

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nanotechnology

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these little implants

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if they're real and from

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i don't know an extraterrestrial

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intelligence

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they're so small that to be

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at all useful i would say to whoever

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implanted them

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they

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would have to be comprised of some kind

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of super advanced nanotechnology

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so here tonight we have a guest mr

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stephen colburn who

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i would consider an expert i would think

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most lawyers in a court of law would

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consider him an expert in nanotechnology

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and in chemistry

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i think he's uniquely qualified to help

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us to shed some light on this alien

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implant phenomenon

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what are these things made of

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let's

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find out

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without further ado my friends

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hello

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hi mr colburn

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yeah hi this is darren from the midnight

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hour richard talk to you about doing an

589
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,120
interview today for the show

590
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,720
yeah yeah i'm uh

591
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:06,480
i was trying to

592
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,919
okay are you uh are you good to go now

593
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,600
uh yeah yeah this is good uh sorry i

594
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,120
don't either drive my son somewhere and

595
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,360
take longer than i expected

596
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,120
yeah i'm good to go no problem i have

597
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,880
two small children and i know that could

598
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:20,960
be very difficult sometimes

599
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:23,440
so i guess uh

600
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,600
i did like a bumper just so you know i

601
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,880
mean i could send it to you after the

602
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,720
show like i'm just talking about your

603
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:31,440
background and your education

604
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:34,000
but i i guess the first question that i

605
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,840
wanted to ask you is how did you get

606
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,520
interested in

607
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,440
this kind of

608
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:41,840
genre or phenomenon of things

609
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,360
especially the alien implants

610
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:47,600
i've always been interested in it and

611
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,320
i've had some uh ufo sightings and um

612
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,640
it's just always been uh fascinating but

613
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,720
fascinating to me and

614
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:58,240
it turned out that

615
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,679
dr lear

616
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:01,440
worked on a few blocks from rice to work

617
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,950
in camarillo and we hooked up

618
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,279
[Music]

619
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,360
okay that's that was going to be my next

620
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:09,200
question is how did you uh how did you

621
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:12,320
meet dr lear and and start a working

622
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:24,230
i went in oh actually i went in to see

623
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:27,120
him as a patient once and

624
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,120
uh and we started talking about implants

625
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:34,000
yeah he's really well known for for that

626
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,799
that's

627
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,640
been my experience like

628
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,200
i first heard of him years ago you know

629
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,880
like on a television show or something

630
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,799
like that so

631
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,240
i i guess

632
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,840
you know i explained to my listeners

633
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,919
that your background

634
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,200
first of all you have a bachelor's

635
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:51,919
degree in chemistry is that right yeah

636
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,559
that's right and then after that you uh

637
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,279
were sort of uh you have a big interest

638
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,760
in material science and are part of this

639
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,559
materials uh

640
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:04,720
i'm sorry once yeah do you remember the

641
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,159
materials research society

642
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,080
yeah yeah i worked for about 16 years at

643
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:12,400
a place called ytc america and camarillo

644
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,600
that

645
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:15,440
did a lot of material science research

646
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,279
for um yuzuki corporation for um they're

647
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,159
mainly an automotive uh

648
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:24,480
company and we did some research on

649
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:26,240
binding material for conductors in

650
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,600
copper for wiring and

651
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,600
ultrapure

652
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:33,360
silica glass for

653
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:37,039
semiconductor lithography use

654
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,720
yeah i was going to say for the for the

655
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,240
benefit of my listeners that don't

656
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,080
really know much about material science

657
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:44,159
can you explain what that is to people

658
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:45,440
because you've worked in it for a long

659
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,799
time but most people when you think

660
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,400
material science i don't know i would

661
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,240
think like okay that's

662
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:52,159
developing new materials or is it

663
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,000
studying materials that are existing

664
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,080
creating polymers and like mixes of

665
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,640
materials what exactly is this material

666
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:00,640
science covers a lot of ground i mean we

667
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,520
have

668
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,039
many different classes of materials we

669
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:05,279
do many different things and

670
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:07,760
a big part of modern technology or you

671
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,880
know the cutting edge of modern

672
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:10,880
technology is developing new materials

673
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,600
that can do new things be stronger

674
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,799
conduct electricity better

675
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,000
give off

676
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,399
light or promote chemical reactions or

677
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:22,240
whatever the case might be

678
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:23,520
and

679
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:26,640
in my case uh i was working on

680
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,640
a a saw gel project to make ultra pure

681
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,080
silica glass

682
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:35,360
first and then uh

683
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,640
i don't know what that's for i studied

684
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:39,039
computer science

685
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:40,000
so

686
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:44,720
definitely know what that's for

687
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:47,039
yeah yeah the the the ultra pure silica

688
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,830
drawing circuits onto it and

689
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:55,679
photographically reducing that image

690
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,320
down onto a silicon chip to

691
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,120
etch the silicon chip to put in

692
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:03,600
the various tokens that

693
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:06,640
make it into a into a silicon

694
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:09,520
wafer with uh micro components

695
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:10,640
and

696
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,360
you have to have the the glass transmit

697
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:15,120
very short wavelengths would be light to

698
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,159
do that to expose the photoresist

699
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,000
and

700
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,440
they wanted a fluorinated glass with um

701
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:24,799
with a

702
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,360
high transmission and this uh impurity

703
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,799
content as possible we got down to like

704
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,120
50 parts per billion total metallic

705
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,399
impurities

706
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,200
wow and uh about a thousand ppm fluorine

707
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,080
content that was highly resistant to um

708
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,720
radiation did not be exposed to several

709
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,039
million rads of x-rays it did not change

710
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,200
the transmission much so it would have

711
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,360
been good for

712
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,240
spacecraft use or

713
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,039
a use of nuclear reactors

714
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:55,039
for instrumentation parts stuff like

715
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:56,080
that

716
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,840
and it was a near net shape process

717
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:59,279
where you could you could make a liquid

718
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,880
pour it into whatever shape you wanted

719
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,480
gel it dry it

720
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,760
and um

721
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,360
center it

722
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:07,600
and it would it would retain the shape

723
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,470
a lot of work on carbon nanotubes yeah i

724
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:20,320
was just going to get to that i see that

725
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,679
at some point you started a

726
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,679
nanotechnology company

727
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,679
and

728
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,240
you were in that it says nanotube

729
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:29,600
scientists can you explain what a

730
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:33,120
nanotube is to our listeners um yeah um

731
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,799
the most stable form of carbon there are

732
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,320
several forms of carbon but the most

733
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,120
stable form is called graphite i think

734
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,200
most people are familiar with it as

735
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,310
that's my only experience that's my only

736
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,799
experience with what graphite is but i

737
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,720
know that they use it in

738
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,640
hundreds and thousands of different uses

739
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,399
right

740
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,039
um yeah it's um it's kind of a it's kind

741
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,799
of a dark uh

742
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,039
lustery material and um

743
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,360
it's in the form of microscopically it's

744
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:04,960
in the form of

745
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,320
of sheets of carbon atoms that are well

746
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,360
bonded together kind of like a hexagonal

747
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,279
chicken wire type arrangement

748
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,039
and those plates of carbon atom sheets

749
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:17,120
of carbon atoms are stacked on top of

750
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:18,080
the other

751
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,840
and strong van der waals forces hold

752
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,039
them together so um

753
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,679
the sheets can slide across each other a

754
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,520
lot easier than they can be ripped apart

755
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,840
they're extremely strong

756
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,159
in the horizontal direction but i don't

757
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,240
bond that strongly together so

758
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,480
anyway if you took one of those sheets

759
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,480
if you're taking one of those sheets and

760
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,399
rolling it into a tube

761
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,960
that would be a carbon nanotube

762
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,559
and the angle at which the folding is

763
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,320
done determines whether

764
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:47,600
it determines the tube properties

765
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,440
whether it's a into the array either a

766
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,159
semiconducting or a

767
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,399
metallic carbon nanotube well that was

768
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,320
going to be my next question

769
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,399
what exactly are carbon nanotubes used

770
00:31:01,509 --> 00:31:00,240
for in industry and products and things

771
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,519
like that

772
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,120
well they're the the world's strongest

773
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,960
known material

774
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,840
so

775
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,120
if we could

776
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,200
make

777
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,960
defect three carbon nanotubes that were

778
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,960
sufficiently long you could use them to

779
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:14,559
strengthen

780
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:16,840
many materials including

781
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:19,840
metals in fact we were trying to

782
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,799
make an aluminum carbon nanotube

783
00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:24,720
metal matrix composite that would be

784
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:26,350
more conductive than copper

785
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:27,679
[Music]

786
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,559
and that's theoretically possible and

787
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:32,000
i always need to get the cause of carbon

788
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,080
nanotubes down and be able to develop

789
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:36,399
better methods of separating the

790
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,559
uh the different diameters and types of

791
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,240
carbon nanotubes from one another

792
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:41,679
there's hundreds of different types so

793
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:44,480
they vary by diameter and

794
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:48,000
an angle of uh roll angle um

795
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:49,200
and um

796
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,240
uh

797
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:52,000
that determines whether they're metallic

798
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,519
or something you know the metallic ones

799
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:55,279
are extremely conductive

800
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,720
and they're almost like

801
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:58,480
a superconductor the only resistance is

802
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,360
the contact resistance of each end

803
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,760
and the semiconductor ones are

804
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,039
a lot like

805
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,840
doped silicon you can use them to make

806
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:09,679
transistors and diodes and

807
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:16,789
you have four patents in that area isn't

808
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,600
that right in in nanotechnology or

809
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,519
carbon nanotubes

810
00:32:26,830 --> 00:32:24,559
yeah the um the one i'm the one i'm the

811
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:26,840
most uh proud of is

812
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,080
a process to put just about any desired

813
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:33,760
metal inside carbon nanotubes or to put

814
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,360
nanoparticles on the outside or both

815
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,440
there's a force called the casimir

816
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,200
effect that

817
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:43,039
that sucks in

818
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,640
material on the inside of even a very

819
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,120
small diameter carbonylity of um like

820
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,360
with a one uh it's a quantum mechanical

821
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:51,120
effect uh

822
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,450
zero point energy effect then

823
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:54,080
[Music]

824
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,519
if you took

825
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,600
two conductive plates and

826
00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:00,080
put them uh very close together

827
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,679
then um

828
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,600
the zero point energy is all around us

829
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:05,440
and there's an electromagnetic component

830
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:06,559
of that

831
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,360
and

832
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,840
between two conductive plates

833
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,519
the component of the zero point energy

834
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,600
that has a wavelength

835
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,440
longer than the separation distance

836
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:17,120
between the plates cannot propagate in

837
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,399
the gap

838
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,679
so

839
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,120
in theory

840
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:23,039
then you have you have a higher pressure

841
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,559
pushing on the sides of the carbon

842
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:26,480
nanotubes and work hard

843
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:27,679
because on the side of the plate it's

844
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,320
rather inward than you have uh

845
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,480
from the inside so there's a force

846
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:34,799
pushing the two plates together

847
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:38,080
and that in that in fact uh turns out to

848
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,120
be

849
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:42,399
demonstrable um experimentally

850
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:44,080
and

851
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,240
it also applies to a tubular conductive

852
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,960
object like a carbon nanotube so

853
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,200
uh with a carbon attitude that's um

854
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,880
that's about a nanometer in diameter

855
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,640
about 10 atoms across uh there's

856
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,480
approximately three million atmospheric

857
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,440
pressure

858
00:34:01,669 --> 00:34:00,240
trying to push that into the center so

859
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,679
you can open up the ends of carbon

860
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,760
nanotubes with reagents like bromine for

861
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:05,200
example and um

862
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,720
and stuff will just whatever's in the

863
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,320
solution that's going to rush in there

864
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:11,200
and if it includes the the

865
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:12,639
booth

866
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,159
then you've got it inside the tube and

867
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,800
our storage we did mostly metal ions and

868
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,879
that those metal ions later with

869
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:22,960
hydrogen to

870
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,520
metal inside the tube

871
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,440
and now you might have properties for

872
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:30,000
different purposes i'm sorry hold on one

873
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:31,280
second you might be able to hear a bunch

874
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,320
of cooing

875
00:34:40,590 --> 00:34:34,480
just give me one second okay i apologize

876
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:49,669
[Applause]

877
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,430
okay i'm sorry about that i can cut this

878
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:53,200
out but i should explain that my normal

879
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,399
studio i'm moving in 16 days is all uh

880
00:35:10,870 --> 00:34:58,400
packed up and i'm in a basement with

881
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,750
recording and i can cut all of my noise

882
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,680
out when you're when you're answering so

883
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,599
it's not like a big deal i have you on

884
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,839
one channel on me on another channel

885
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:22,000
so i guess the the other question i

886
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:24,320
wanted to ask you is

887
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,359
when

888
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,520
you're you're i want to i explained to

889
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:30,000
my listeners that to get to the bottom

890
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,280
of what these

891
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:33,920
so-called or i don't want to say alleged

892
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,560
alien implants but i guess i will

893
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,200
what are they what are they made of

894
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,280
to get to the bottom of that i wanted to

895
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,680
talk to somebody like you and honestly i

896
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,280
think you're the most qualified person i

897
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,119
could possibly find

898
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:49,599
because number one you have actual

899
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,599
physical experience with them and number

900
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:53,280
two because of the background that

901
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:54,560
you've been talking about you've been

902
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:57,920
working with materials and chemistry and

903
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,440
nanotechnology and nano you know

904
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,599
the stuff that you're doing you're the

905
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,280
perfect person

906
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,920
to explain to our listeners

907
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:09,920
what are these implants what are they

908
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:12,640
made of what is their function

909
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:14,079
and i guess the other question i would

910
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,599
say is

911
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,400
you've had access and seen

912
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,119
tons of different materials and and ways

913
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,720
of creating tiny tiny materials

914
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,359
like when we talk about nanotechnology

915
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,040
so

916
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,760
when you started seeing these things

917
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,920
and analyzing them have you ever seen

918
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,240
anything like that

919
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,119
uh no um some other people that um that

920
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,560
also participated in the analysis uh

921
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,000
commented that they'd never seen

922
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,640
anything like that either

923
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,760
they

924
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:49,119
are apparently sophisticated

925
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,480
nanotechnological devices that are

926
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,520
beyond

927
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:55,760
civilian science for sure

928
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,310
the typical the typical

929
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,640
implant is usually the extremities of a

930
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,760
person that

931
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:06,839
has

932
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,520
reported alien contact

933
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,359
and

934
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,760
most of them are cylinders about maybe

935
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,440
four millimeters long by a little less

936
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,359
than a millimeter in diameter and

937
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,680
covered by a

938
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:20,880
gray

939
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,680
membrane that appears to be

940
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,480
altered proteins from the blood plasma

941
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,040
because it's somewhat conductive and

942
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:31,119
proprioceptive nerves grow into the

943
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:32,320
objects

944
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:34,960
and below that there is a

945
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,560
a piece of uh metal that's mostly um

946
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,560
most cylindrical metal that's mostly

947
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,320
meteoric iron

948
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:44,960
the trace element pattern and

949
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,920
the

950
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,240
object from patient number 15 indicated

951
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,320
that it was from

952
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:52,079
meteorites stick wire meteorites called

953
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,680
hexahedrites

954
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,200
that was derived from the trace element

955
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:57,599
pattern and the

956
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,560
ratio of gallium to germanium

957
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,240
so that would indicate that it was not

958
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,800
it was not terrestrial it was not from

959
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,200
earth no material no i mean it was it

960
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,320
was definitely meteoric material

961
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,240
what does that mean meteoric material it

962
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:14,400
means it came from a meteor

963
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,839
in from a meteor yes a nickel iron

964
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,880
meteor and

965
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,560
but this is what i don't understand why

966
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,560
would somebody construct

967
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:24,800
some sort of technological device and

968
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,320
use a meteor as the source material

969
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,960
well if aliens are doing this then

970
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,960
meteoric iron would be a material that

971
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:34,079
they had

972
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,829
them

973
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,599
that makes sense

974
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:40,480
and was

975
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,160
there was there technological effects or

976
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:46,480
were you guys able to at all determine

977
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,839
what the function of these things were

978
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:51,920
uh no not for sure we have we've

979
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,920
speculated about their function um they

980
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,000
give off radio signals you know that so

981
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:58,160
they're they're devices of some kind

982
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,119
that are powered um somehow

983
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,680
uh dr kunitz uh one of our colleagues

984
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,320
when dr bear was alive um

985
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,839
thought that they were they were powered

986
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,160
by uh zero point energy by some sort of

987
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,480
interaction between the um between

988
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:14,720
phonon modes of the metal and

989
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:16,240
and the magnetic fields that these

990
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,599
things have um

991
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,520
they're they're usually magnetized with

992
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,280
at least a um

993
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:24,240
a 10 to 20 milligrams field

994
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,040
um and which is quite quite powerful for

995
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:29,599
an object that small

996
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,480
and um the metal is covered by um a

997
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,400
layer of um

998
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:36,960
a little more biological looks like a

999
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,160
like bone or a

1000
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:42,560
shell coating like mother of pearl

1001
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,599
there's a lot of calcium and silicon

1002
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,920
in it and it shines like mother of pearl

1003
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,839
under the microscope

1004
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:51,839
and

1005
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,680
there may be some enzymes in that to

1006
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,359
cause the formation of the black the

1007
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,440
black membrane i described

1008
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,680
and below that inside the metal there

1009
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,240
are carbon nanotubes surprisingly enough

1010
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,119
it was like a real synchronicity that

1011
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:07,680
that i got to study these things and was

1012
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,800
setting carbon down tubes at my job

1013
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:12,400
these crop down tubes are embedded in

1014
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,440
the metal

1015
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,720
and

1016
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,640
presumably from the electronics of the

1017
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,480
device

1018
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:20,560
it seems like uh

1019
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:22,450
old technology to the aliens

1020
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,630
well that's pretty amazing but

1021
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,640
when you say they they are putting off

1022
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:32,640
radio waves do you mean that they're

1023
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,440
transmitting radio waves

1024
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,200
yeah apparently so they're well they're

1025
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,920
not always transmitting but about um

1026
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,920
about uh ten to twenty percent of the

1027
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:44,480
time they shouldn't be transmitting um

1028
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,119
radio signals um

1029
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:49,599
and uh we were able to get uh dr leary

1030
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,079
how to have an rf device that that would

1031
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,440
give us some of this most of the

1032
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,030
we had

1033
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,760
an elf band that was eight hertz and

1034
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,520
then um

1035
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:03,280
a megahertz band

1036
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,400
and um went four gigahertz with the

1037
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,240
microwave um

1038
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,920
uh band and there was one down i think

1039
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:12,480
it was something like 150 megahertz that

1040
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:13,440
that

1041
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,359
was um

1042
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,599
uh turned out to be a uh

1043
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:19,040
an aeronautical or satellite

1044
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,720
communication frequency

1045
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:23,040
so well that's not um and do they

1046
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:23,920
continue

1047
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:25,839
to carry information with our government

1048
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,240
do they continue to transmit once

1049
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:30,319
they're removed from the body

1050
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,070
the transmission stops

1051
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,800
[Music]

1052
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,040
so either either the power source is

1053
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,800
interrupted when you remove them from

1054
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:40,160
the body or

1055
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,800
more likely the um the signal

1056
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,800
that allows them to transmit is derived

1057
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:46,319
from the nervous system

1058
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:47,040
and

1059
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,400
the other question that i have that i

1060
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,240
think is important is that

1061
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,000
when somebody uh

1062
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:54,079
how are they located in the body because

1063
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:56,079
i did have one question because of this

1064
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,200
film or and i've seen uh

1065
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:02,000
use it use of a stud finder and i have

1066
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:04,000
to tell you i'm not a scientist or a

1067
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:04,960
doctor

1068
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,680
but

1069
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,000
uh you know i have a stud finder and i

1070
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:10,000
thought that was odd that

1071
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:11,200
the the

1072
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,040
one of the ways to detect where they are

1073
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,119
in the body is the use of a stud finder

1074
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,040
can you explain how that works or why

1075
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,000
that would be a a stud finder is a small

1076
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,400
handheld metal detector that

1077
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,119
is designed to detect nails inside walls

1078
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,200
so dr lear came up with the idea that

1079
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:29,119
perhaps he could use them to find

1080
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,000
implants in the body and it indeed works

1081
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,400
quite well okay now that makes sense i

1082
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,920
didn't know how a stud finder worked i

1083
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,599
have one i thought that it was like some

1084
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,440
kind of sonar and it would find the beam

1085
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:40,640
in the wall that you're looking for i

1086
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,680
didn't know that it was any kind of

1087
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:43,760
metal detector

1088
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:49,030
most of them detect a conductive object

1089
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,240
uh and some of them are designed to

1090
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,800
detect magnetic magnetic objects as well

1091
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,800
but the common more common ones are

1092
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,680
designed to detect a conductive object

1093
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,960
like metal

1094
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,280
so do these do these things show up on

1095
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:03,359
x-rays and mris and standard medical

1096
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:04,880
scans too

1097
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:07,760
uh yes they do

1098
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,160
they sometimes show up on x-rays uh the

1099
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,640
aliens seem to have a um

1100
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,880
a method of um

1101
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,359
of altering the devices so that they did

1102
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,599
not show up on x-rays i'm not clear

1103
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,800
seeing them

1104
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,560
disappear off x-rays during the middle

1105
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,720
of operations before

1106
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,880
we saw it on patient 17 as a matter of

1107
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,160
fact

1108
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:29,760
and um

1109
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,599
i doubt the devices work in that

1110
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,760
configuration or they would keep it that

1111
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:35,599
way the whole time but

1112
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,480
um

1113
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:39,280
they can that will apparently

1114
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:42,400
make them undetectable to um to x-rays

1115
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,520
but

1116
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:45,200
from what from what limited data i've

1117
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,950
and

1118
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,079
i don't know if they can make them

1119
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,480
invisible to mri or not and we found out

1120
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:56,560
in the patient 17 surgery that they show

1121
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,680
up an ultrasound as well

1122
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:01,760
okay so that covers how they're found

1123
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,240
and do usually the people that have them

1124
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,640
know like okay

1125
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,400
there's one in my arm there's one in my

1126
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,640
leg or do they

1127
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,119
have to be you know do you guys have to

1128
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:15,760
do these medical scans and and look for

1129
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:21,030
um well often the people don't know

1130
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:22,560
anything about it and they just come in

1131
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,040
for some other purpose and get an x-ray

1132
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,599
and and get this object found

1133
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,200
once in a while they'll uh they'll

1134
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:31,040
remember an alien experience and that

1135
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,560
the aliens were messing with some part

1136
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,319
of their body but they usually don't

1137
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,960
know there's an implant there but

1138
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:38,480
once in a while they do

1139
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,680
yeah that was that was the other

1140
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,040
question i was going to ask each of

1141
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,280
these patients that claim that they have

1142
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,839
an alien implant or had one removed

1143
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,520
each of them remember some kind of

1144
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,839
experience right they're not just told

1145
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,440
that they have an alien implant when

1146
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,760
they go to roger when they go to dr lear

1147
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:55,839
right they go to him because they

1148
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,079
believe they have it isn't that right

1149
00:45:01,430 --> 00:45:00,079
some of the early some of the early a

1150
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:01,440
couple of the early patients that he

1151
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:04,880
that he operated on didn't remember a

1152
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:07,680
thing and it just got bombed by accident

1153
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,640
but

1154
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,040
most of them remembered

1155
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,800
an experience

1156
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,359
one or more experiences but didn't

1157
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,440
know for sure that they had an implant

1158
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,440
but there were a couple also that that

1159
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:20,960
thought they did have an implant too so

1160
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:23,200
it just depends wow and the another

1161
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:24,480
question that i thought was very

1162
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,280
important is you've seen more than one

1163
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,760
of these devices right

1164
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:30,480
and

1165
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,280
makeup of materials

1166
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:36,800
so that they appeared to come from the

1167
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,680
same source or the same manufacturer

1168
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,400
or were they completely different

1169
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,480
there's definitely different types

1170
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,359
typical one i was describing um

1171
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,000
constitutes about a third to half the

1172
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,839
objects i would say

1173
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,520
we need to you know clarify that without

1174
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,839
even more data later on like um we'll

1175
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:56,960
know the answers to these kind of

1176
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,760
questions better when we have like 100

1177
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,520
you know operations rather than just 17

1178
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:03,280
like we have now but

1179
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,240
um

1180
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,680
as far as i can i can tell like the

1181
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,680
typical ones i described are present in

1182
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,000
about about the third to half the cases

1183
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,599
and there's all there's also different

1184
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:13,520
types too there's t-shaped ones and

1185
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,040
there's um

1186
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:17,920
they're somewhat smaller

1187
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,800
and the metallic ones in general yes i

1188
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,480
would say probably that they were they

1189
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,480
came from the same source they all have

1190
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:26,160
at least some percentage of meteoric

1191
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:28,319
iron in them uh from what i've seen so

1192
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,680
far

1193
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,680
the one in patient 15 had was pure

1194
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,319
meteoric iron and the one from

1195
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:36,960
the next patient uh mr ron the well it

1196
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,520
came out of his wrist um he

1197
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:41,760
authorized me that you know use his name

1198
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,760
by the way

1199
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,560
he

1200
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,800
has had about 10 percent meteoric iron

1201
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:48,560
according to the analysis and that's

1202
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,570
apparently some pure iron mixed with it

1203
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:52,319
[Music]

1204
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,119
and

1205
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,760
the the one for patient 17

1206
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,599
object

1207
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,520
uh also appeared to be meteoric iron but

1208
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,760
it was it was so small it was uh we

1209
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,839
got a little bit less uh trade solvent

1210
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:05,680
analysis on that but

1211
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,560
um

1212
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,800
and you've seen so many other ones the

1213
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,480
metallic ones definitely

1214
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,319
definitely at least most likely came

1215
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,480
from the same uh the metal came from the

1216
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,400
same source and um

1217
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,000
there's also other types like there a

1218
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,079
couple times you've seen biological ones

1219
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:21,520
and we know that there are moving

1220
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,040
implants that

1221
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,960
that are in the body that some people

1222
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:26,160
have reported

1223
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:27,200
and

1224
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,800
in whitley street case the doctor

1225
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:31,119
actually got a little piece of it but

1226
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,480
we haven't been able to get the whole

1227
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,800
one for analysis yet

1228
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,400
yeah i was going to ask

1229
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,079
another important question that i think

1230
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:40,319
is important to determining

1231
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:42,079
the makeup of these things or their

1232
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:43,280
source

1233
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,800
you and all the other people that have

1234
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,880
seen these things up close and analyzed

1235
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,559
them and had them under microscopes or

1236
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,040
whatever else you guys do

1237
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,800
i mean you're all qualified to tell the

1238
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,640
difference between

1239
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:55,680
let's say

1240
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,390
a piece of a meteorite and a

1241
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:02,880
manufactured object right and you

1242
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:06,079
believe they're manufactured

1243
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,040
yeah i think they were they were

1244
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,040
manufactured from uh

1245
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,839
from from pieces of meteorites yeah the

1246
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,280
metallic ones

1247
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,359
um there's also ones that apparently are

1248
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,960
made of a conductive polymer that

1249
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,559
they've i don't know if you ever read

1250
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:21,680
communion but the implements that

1251
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:24,559
whitley streeper described as that of

1252
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,839
what they put up people's noses

1253
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:29,200
those

1254
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,119
are apparently made of neglected polymer

1255
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,440
people had reported that the aliens told

1256
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:37,920
them that and somebody gave me one one

1257
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,680
time that somebody sneezed out that

1258
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,160
hadn't gone up into the brain and

1259
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:44,240
i analyzed that and indeed it was made

1260
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,119
of a conductive polymer so

1261
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,520
those may this is speculation at this

1262
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:51,440
point based on abductee reports that

1263
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:52,640
those may

1264
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,760
uh utilize uh blood proteins to

1265
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,440
manufacture more of the conductive

1266
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,200
polymer and

1267
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:01,119
extend tendrils all throughout the brain

1268
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:02,559
to

1269
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,800
the other information and maybe occur

1270
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,200
partial control over the subject if uh

1271
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,760
aliens so desire well that's scary

1272
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,400
that's a really scary thought

1273
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:16,480
yeah somewhat and of all the people that

1274
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,599
are claiming

1275
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:19,440
you know some sort of alien abduction

1276
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,640
experience

1277
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,200
i mean is do they all have implants do

1278
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,119
they all get an implant or are some of

1279
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,520
them just abducted experimented on and

1280
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,440
then returned and there's no

1281
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,680
it's it's hard to say at this point but

1282
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:32,640
um

1283
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,440
as far as implants that can be detected

1284
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:37,839
uh it seems to be about uh

1285
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,559
just roughly about um

1286
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,400
25 30

1287
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,599
i personally believe that um that that

1288
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,680
most likely everybody that

1289
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,520
that has been abducted has an implant

1290
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:50,800
but uh

1291
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:51,680
there are

1292
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,640
some

1293
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,160
they're either just invisible to our

1294
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:56,079
detection equipment or just too small to

1295
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:57,520
see

1296
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,559
um

1297
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,400
they put these ones about above people's

1298
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,079
ears that um

1299
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:03,520
i'm not sure what their function is yet

1300
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,559
they're so small i think they're

1301
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,400
probably just just tracking devices or

1302
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,319
have some simple function yeah that was

1303
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:10,720
going to be my other pretty easily

1304
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:12,079
oh i'm sorry that was going to be my

1305
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,000
other question is you guys weren't

1306
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,920
really able to determine with any degree

1307
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,599
of scientific certainty what their

1308
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,760
function is but i know it's speculative

1309
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,760
but are they tracking devices you said

1310
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,280
maybe they're mind controlled devices

1311
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,520
yeah that that makes sense most likely

1312
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,599
there are tracking devices

1313
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,200
and or

1314
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,680
objects that tell the aliens about the

1315
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,920
blood chemistry and physiological

1316
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,440
parameters

1317
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,280
dr koontz thought the one in patient

1318
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,920
17's toe was most likely one of its

1319
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,920
functions was a room bug that could

1320
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,079
detect airborne sounds

1321
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,480
wow i was really crazy yeah

1322
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,960
and um since they're detected they're

1323
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,240
connected to the nervous system they

1324
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:51,920
might be able to uh

1325
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,800
tell

1326
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,200
what the subject is doing or thinking or

1327
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,280
something along those lines the ones

1328
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,559
that are the ones that are put into the

1329
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:00,480
brain

1330
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,680
we don't know this for sure but

1331
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:03,920
according to object t reports they

1332
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,880
they their function is to gather

1333
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,680
sensory information like visual and

1334
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,680
auditory information so that the aliens

1335
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:13,280
might be able to see through your

1336
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:15,359
subject's eyes or hear through their

1337
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,040
ears like that

1338
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,960
and just to play just to play devil's

1339
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:21,359
advocate a lot of the critics

1340
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,400
and uh naysayers and non-believers

1341
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,920
you know even other medical

1342
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,920
professionals have said that

1343
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,440
a lot of these objects are just foreign

1344
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,280
objects maybe somebody stepped onto

1345
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,680
something and then you know lodged

1346
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:35,920
itself in the body and traveled a little

1347
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,480
bit or whatever the case may be but what

1348
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,640
confuses me about that is

1349
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,079
that would mean that somebody had to

1350
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,240
step on a piece of a meteor or something

1351
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,920
right to get it right

1352
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,520
it's highly unlikely i mean if these if

1353
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,119
these things are just metal shards or

1354
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,280
something then that would make sense but

1355
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,720
when it doesn't hold up to close

1356
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:54,480
analysis because the person would have

1357
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:56,000
to have stepped on a

1358
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,599
meteor a meteor

1359
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,200
shard that also had an internal

1360
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,119
structure to it and was connected to the

1361
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,440
nervous system somehow proprioceptive

1362
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,720
nerves are not supposed to be found

1363
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,559
below the skin and they somehow grow

1364
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:08,800
into these devices and the final thing

1365
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,880
that i haven't mentioned up to now is

1366
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,079
that um

1367
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:14,400
these devices do not produce any

1368
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:25,670
the human body will somehow seek to

1369
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,960
expel or reject a foreign object isn't

1370
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,400
that right

1371
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,240
yeah but

1372
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,280
it does not reject these uh because

1373
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:37,280
some apparently some technology is

1374
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,760
preventing the body from rejecting them

1375
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,599
that's really kind of strange and you're

1376
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,359
not aware of any technology that we have

1377
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,680
that would allow that are you

1378
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:46,400
no

1379
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,200
project people have it but it's in the

1380
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,520
civilian science i mean but what about

1381
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,000
when somebody has something that's

1382
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,160
purposely implanted that is a foreign

1383
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,480
object like a pacemaker did they i think

1384
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,720
they take medication to prevent problems

1385
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,000
with that or something so it's not

1386
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:06,240
rejected or or is it sterile or

1387
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,440
something like that

1388
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,520
um sometimes sometimes i think that they

1389
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:11,839
do i'm not i'm not familiar with uh

1390
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,319
with exactly the procedure to uh to do

1391
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,280
pacemakers but i i gather that they

1392
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,960
that that it does sometimes cause

1393
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,480
problems inflammation does cause

1394
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,520
problems uh but it's just not enough to

1395
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,280
you know to warrant uh being a

1396
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,960
showstopper and a device having to be

1397
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,400
removed but

1398
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,480
i think it does produce some

1399
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,800
inflammation and

1400
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,960
discoloration and alteration of the

1401
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,079
tissue

1402
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,480
in contact with it i've seen like i've

1403
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,559
seen breast implants for example that

1404
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:42,000
were taken out of the human body and

1405
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:43,119
they're

1406
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,960
trying to attack them and

1407
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:49,040
there's residue left on them and

1408
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,480
obviously some

1409
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:52,240
interaction was taking place there's no

1410
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,599
interaction taking place between the

1411
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,760
body and these devices at all

1412
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,720
and then

1413
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:58,319
another question that i've always

1414
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,839
wondered and never got to ask anybody is

1415
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,839
if these were alien implants

1416
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,079
and and let's say

1417
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,559
dr lear removed an implant from one of

1418
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:10,960
the patients that was

1419
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,319
reporting some kind of abduction

1420
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,000
experiences

1421
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,640
so he goes to dr leer and he has the

1422
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,160
implant removed

1423
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:22,559
do those abduction experiences stop

1424
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,200
after the implant is gone

1425
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,520
um no i've never heard of a case where

1426
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:29,040
the abductions have stopped after the

1427
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,480
implant

1428
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,359
was excuse me taken off but

1429
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,000
i have heard of cases where the aliens

1430
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:39,040
within a new one are put in a one that

1431
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:39,760
the

1432
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:40,960
person thought to have a similar

1433
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,599
function at a different location

1434
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:45,119
but no never the case where they've

1435
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:47,440
stopped as a result that's really really

1436
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,119
wild so

1437
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:51,599
there's been 17 people that dr lear has

1438
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:54,480
taken these out of do you know

1439
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:55,520
you know

1440
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:58,559
most of my listeners are aware that

1441
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,520
dr lear has passed away recently

1442
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,839
so i guess i wanted to ask you

1443
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:05,280
what

1444
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,880
material

1445
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,960
or what will happen going forward with

1446
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:13,119
it

1447
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:14,240
um

1448
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,880
at you know where

1449
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:21,200
where work can be studied i don't want

1450
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:22,720
to go into exactly what happened to us

1451
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,720
but

1452
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:25,839
some of the some of the pieces are

1453
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,640
available for study at this point still

1454
00:55:33,170 --> 00:55:30,240
and um

1455
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,180
uh dr blair um

1456
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,400
[Music]

1457
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,119
would have wanted that and i think we're

1458
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:38,880
going to set up to do some more

1459
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:42,319
therapies in the in the near future and

1460
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:43,839
i just need to find a doctor who's

1461
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,720
interested in uh in performing them

1462
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,200
and uh for source of funding as well i

1463
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:50,799
mean um

1464
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,119
uh money is uh difficult to come by

1465
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:55,119
these days but um

1466
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:56,640
yeah i mean that was that was gonna be

1467
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,440
my other my other question is that well

1468
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:01,599
isn't it really really expensive just to

1469
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,559
have like a piece of let's say metal for

1470
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,400
example analyzed to determine its

1471
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,920
elemental makeup like what does that

1472
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:10,079
cost on average

1473
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,510
five to six hundred dollars for to

1474
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,440
analyze for every element in a periodic

1475
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:19,280
table that they cannot analyze for us

1476
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:20,720
and they can't analyze for like

1477
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,680
volatiles like uh iodine and sulfur for

1478
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,799
example

1479
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,839
um

1480
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:27,839
but

1481
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:31,520
analyze for like all metals and uh

1482
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,920
volatile elements cost about 500 and

1483
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,680
that's if you want to do isotopic and

1484
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,520
also at the same time as fifty dollars

1485
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:38,960
an element

1486
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,480
yes

1487
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,480
but it's not incredibly soft yeah but my

1488
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,079
point is it's kind of expensive for

1489
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,839
somebody to just do it

1490
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,240
on their own without funding and because

1491
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,559
you guys said

1492
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,400
you guys have done that i've done that

1493
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,480
without funding right like you guys

1494
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:55,920
didn't have a funding source that was

1495
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:58,400
just paying for all this did you yeah i

1496
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:00,640
paid for i paid for uh

1497
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:04,000
quite a bit of this out of my own pocket

1498
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:04,880
and

1499
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:08,799
donations not a lot

1500
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:10,960
and

1501
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:13,839
uh we definitely need to uh have a

1502
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,480
funding first i'm i'm hoping to get my

1503
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,200
nanotech company up and running um i

1504
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:21,119
mean i've got it started but i need to

1505
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,240
actually you know get a place of

1506
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:24,160
business and you know get sales going

1507
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,829
get that off the ground and when that's

1508
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,359
when that happens

1509
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,680
while i was first funding

1510
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,960
yeah

1511
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:36,799
i guess the other question that about

1512
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,000
materials with regard to dr lear that's

1513
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,920
very important to me i looked for the

1514
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,680
source of it i'm still looking for it i

1515
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:46,000
can't find the actual source but

1516
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:47,200
i'm sure

1517
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,040
that i had seen dr lear on a show uh

1518
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:53,200
you know like a documentary or something

1519
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,400
and and

1520
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,960
in that specific documentary

1521
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,720
he wasn't talking about implants that he

1522
00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:00,400
had in his possession he was talking

1523
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:01,359
about

1524
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,480
uh ufo wreckage or medals that he had

1525
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,280
that were reportedly or allegedly from

1526
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:09,359
uh you know yeah i've got i've got some

1527
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,319
of that too

1528
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:11,680
yeah

1529
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,119
dr lear had a i went out to the um

1530
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:16,720
augustine uh

1531
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:19,520
new mexico ufo crash site and um

1532
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:22,160
got some materials in there and

1533
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,400
was given some by chuck wade and art

1534
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,400
campbell can you tell us about this

1535
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,799
adventure in the site for a long time

1536
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:31,200
and dr laird actually had

1537
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:32,880
a piece of what turned out to be ultra

1538
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,559
hair silicon that

1539
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,880
that was allegedly part of the roswell

1540
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:38,000
wreckage

1541
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:40,170
wow and that's now in your possession

1542
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,599
[Music]

1543
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:44,079
i've got a very small piece of it that i

1544
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:46,640
broke off for analysis and and uh didn't

1545
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,470
his estate or his wife i don't know what

1546
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,160
happened to it oh yeah that's that's

1547
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:58,559
what i was going to come back to is like

1548
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,200
if if he had pieces of ufo wreckage and

1549
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:03,200
they always passed away you know

1550
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,559
i mean

1551
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,119
uh i was just very curious like what's

1552
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:09,040
going on with all those materials and

1553
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,640
who has them and what's going to happen

1554
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,079
to them or they're just going to be lost

1555
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:14,079
to history

1556
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:15,760
well the only piece of ufo records that

1557
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,599
i'm aware of that dr larry had was that

1558
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,280
piece of silicon and

1559
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,200
the vast majority of it was with his

1560
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,359
wife and she seemed she seemed hot to

1561
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:25,280
like sell off a lot of the stuff so he

1562
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,640
probably sold it she probably sold

1563
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,720
somebody i'm not sure who but

1564
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,559
um i've got a

1565
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:33,280
i've got a piece that um a very small

1566
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:35,040
piece that i could do some analysis on

1567
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,839
in the future but then

1568
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:39,920
i did i did i did do a

1569
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:41,760
trace element analysis on it and vermont

1570
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:45,190
and i also signed it uh

1571
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,720
[Music]

1572
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,000
and what were the results of your

1573
00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,319
analysis on that piece the results were

1574
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:52,400
that it was ultra pure silicon but the

1575
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:55,359
the trace elements um were different

1576
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:56,960
than the trace elements

1577
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:58,960
that result

1578
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,680
from an earthly uh manufacturer

1579
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,839
it's different than commercial um ultra

1580
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,760
pure silicon that's widely available

1581
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,000
like it's got silver in it for example

1582
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,559
and that's um that that doesn't happen

1583
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:12,079
with uh

1584
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:12,839
uh

1585
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:16,000
commercial ultra pure silicon um

1586
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,160
i think that's rare earth's in it too

1587
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,319
and um

1588
01:00:24,910 --> 01:00:22,640
it's somewhat more pure than the

1589
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,920
commercial uh ultra pure silicon

1590
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:26,160
[Music]

1591
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,160
it appears different it's got kind of a

1592
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,160
golden luster rather than a

1593
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:32,640
blue luster like the commercial stuff

1594
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:34,400
yeah i have seen that like i said i

1595
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,160
studied computer science i've seen like

1596
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,920
the block silicon

1597
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:39,520
that they make the wafers out of and

1598
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,480
things like that you know for for chips

1599
01:00:44,850 --> 01:00:44,319
but i have never seen any like you

1600
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:44,860
describe

1601
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:47,119
[Music]

1602
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:48,890
and then um

1603
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:52,799
[Music]

1604
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,640
it had a another curve on one side that

1605
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,799
that the former owner

1606
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,799
took to a lab and they determined it had

1607
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:02,960
been exposed to extreme heat

1608
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:08,390
initial

1609
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,920
chamber if it was part of a chamber at

1610
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,599
one time would have been about 10 meters

1611
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:13,280
in diameter

1612
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,150
and

1613
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:16,319
[Music]

1614
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:18,079
they speculated that this might have

1615
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:21,520
been the coating of the outside of a

1616
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:23,680
fusion reactor or zero point energy

1617
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,799
reactor

1618
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:26,559
uh that would turn the heat and

1619
01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:29,760
radiation directly into electricity

1620
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,839
oh that sounds kind of like that

1621
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,920
kind of like the bob lazar

1622
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:35,680
information

1623
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,480
yeah yeah yeah you remarked on stuff

1624
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,160
like that too

1625
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,400
wow so besides that material and the

1626
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,480
implant material you mentioned the saint

1627
01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:46,559
augustine ufo crash can you talk about

1628
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:47,020
that

1629
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,480
[Music]

1630
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,240
yeah this is the st augustine crash

1631
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:52,559
material is mostly mostly strips of

1632
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:55,039
aluminum some are very thin and one of

1633
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,480
them is about

1634
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:58,880
a sixteenth of an inch thick and

1635
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:00,400
has kind of a

1636
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,150
micro structure to it it's hard to

1637
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,200
describe um we did do some more analysis

1638
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:11,680
on that some more sem analysis on that

1639
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,799
and then

1640
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:14,559
we also in the last

1641
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,960
trip out there found a checklist found a

1642
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:20,880
honeycomb material that appeared to have

1643
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:22,079
been

1644
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,280
between the

1645
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:24,960
exterior uh

1646
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:27,760
wall craft and the interior

1647
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:28,559
and

1648
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:32,400
there was a honeycomb of aluminum with

1649
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:34,079
strips of uh

1650
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:37,039
some plastic bike material on both sides

1651
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,280
and these these brown dots that were

1652
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:40,880
that were between the plastic material

1653
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:43,119
and the outer and the outer hull

1654
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,960
uh that were

1655
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:46,720
a very interesting composition of

1656
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:48,240
dexprosium

1657
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,000
composed mostly of dysprosium and

1658
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:52,079
terbium rare earths

1659
01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:53,119
yeah

1660
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:54,319
i've never heard of each of those

1661
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,960
materials those are rare earth materials

1662
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:58,400
they're rare earth material rare

1663
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:59,359
elements

1664
01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:00,480
and

1665
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:10,150
[Music]

1666
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,640
projects have used that composition to

1667
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,160
make

1668
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:16,880
actuators turn electricity directly into

1669
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:19,760
mechanical motion so perhaps that

1670
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,359
perhaps those

1671
01:03:24,470 --> 01:03:22,799
those dots

1672
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:24,480
vibrated the outer

1673
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,319
skin of the craft in such a way to

1674
01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:28,079
create an anti-gravity effect some

1675
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,039
people

1676
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:31,039
have a remark on certain frequencies

1677
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:33,180
creating any gravity effect

1678
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:34,640
[Music]

1679
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:38,000
um i found it to be very interesting

1680
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,520
yeah i could imagine

1681
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:41,760
and that is a material that you've never

1682
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:45,039
seen in any other form right or that no

1683
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,640
i've never i've certainly never seen it

1684
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,480
before i um

1685
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:51,359
i didn't know uh why anybody would want

1686
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,880
to make such a composition and then

1687
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,720
found out that

1688
01:03:56,900 --> 01:03:56,319
it had been experimented with as an

1689
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,910
actuator

1690
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,319
[Applause]

1691
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:00,559
without any moving parts

1692
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:02,799
that is definitely strange and these

1693
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,240
components that are allegedly from

1694
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,960
crashed ufo craft or a covered ufo craft

1695
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:10,559
is that what you i mean after your

1696
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:12,079
analysis and having them in your

1697
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,680
possession and studying them is that

1698
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,520
what you believe they are from an alien

1699
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:17,200
spacecraft

1700
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:19,520
um well the um

1701
01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,240
the the honeycomb material seemed more

1702
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:24,240
interesting but very very interesting

1703
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,400
and uh especially with the brown dot

1704
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:28,079
material

1705
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,599
the um

1706
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,760
the aluminum materials of the strips

1707
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,440
were

1708
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:35,760
they had an unusual composition and it

1709
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,799
was not

1710
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:38,880
what you'd expect from aluminum in

1711
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,440
nineteen 1947

1712
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:43,119
uh there were some rare earths and a

1713
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:44,319
little bit of

1714
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,200
uranium thorium and

1715
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:49,200
niobium and other elements that you

1716
01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:52,160
wouldn't expect in commercial aluminum

1717
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:53,920
their physical properties were not too

1718
01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:56,000
impressive so that that

1719
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:58,640
kind of threw me a little bit but um

1720
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:59,920
um

1721
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:01,119
yeah that's going to be one of my other

1722
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,640
questions i can't i can't say i can't

1723
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,400
say just on the on the face of the

1724
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,760
properties of the material yeah that's

1725
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,440
part of an alien spacecraft but at the

1726
01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:09,280
same time

1727
01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:11,839
what what isotopic data we have indicate

1728
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:12,640
that

1729
01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:16,160
elements are

1730
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,119
strange enough to to have been

1731
01:05:25,589 --> 01:05:20,960
for the material to possibly have been

1732
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:28,230
i'm sorry i was going to say that was my

1733
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:30,240
next question is that every time that

1734
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:31,520
i've heard

1735
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:34,400
some kind of uh claim of okay this is

1736
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:36,640
from an alien spacecraft or this you

1737
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:38,079
know is from

1738
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:39,760
this is some kind of alien technology

1739
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:43,280
there's always talk of isotopic ratios

1740
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:45,359
i'm not a scientist but i looked into it

1741
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:47,599
but i'd like if you could explain to my

1742
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:50,240
listeners how can you tell from isotopic

1743
01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:52,400
ratios that this was manufactured or

1744
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:53,680
came from off

1745
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,160
earth versus um

1746
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,000
like for example

1747
01:06:01,829 --> 01:06:00,319
i've heard that there's aluminum

1748
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:01,839
that someone is in possession of or an

1749
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:02,960
aluminum

1750
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,799
uh you know

1751
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,680
aluminum and a few other elements

1752
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,520
that that was a piece of material

1753
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:11,520
someone had and they didn't they

1754
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:13,760
analyzed it and the isotopic ratio

1755
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:14,720
showed that

1756
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:17,119
the elements within that piece

1757
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:18,480
could not have been

1758
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,480
from planet earth but how do they know

1759
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:22,880
that from isotopic ratios can you

1760
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:25,760
explain that to us well um well there's

1761
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:28,000
every every element has different

1762
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,559
different isotopes different

1763
01:06:34,789 --> 01:06:32,400
different nuclei with the same number of

1764
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:34,799
protons which determines the chemical

1765
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:37,039
properties of the element mostly but

1766
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:40,640
different numbers of neutrons that that

1767
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:44,400
make the mass mass number different so

1768
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,160
some elements have only one stable

1769
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,359
isotope um but uh others have a number

1770
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:50,960
of stable isotopes and the ones that

1771
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,359
have more than one stabilized to uh have

1772
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,280
a certain pattern of um

1773
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,599
or certain ratios of

1774
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,720
of the these stable isotopes that's

1775
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,880
just like a fingerprint this came from

1776
01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:04,880
earth

1777
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,520
and the the ratios of isotopes of each

1778
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,880
element are a little bit different if it

1779
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:11,280
comes from the moon or mars or

1780
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,400
someplace other than earth and

1781
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:16,640
uh we don't have a lot of data yet but

1782
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:19,200
uh what data we do have indicates that

1783
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:20,720
with these um

1784
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,200
a lot of these uh crash debris samples

1785
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:25,280
and implants uh the ratios are often

1786
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:28,240
like way off you know just not even

1787
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,880
close to what we see on earth

1788
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,559
so if um

1789
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:34,880
if those results are are accurate and i

1790
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:36,400
think they probably are at this point

1791
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:37,599
but we'll have to get more data to be

1792
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,039
absolutely sure

1793
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,599
then these materials may have not only

1794
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:43,039
come from

1795
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:45,039
outside the earth or off the earth

1796
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:46,720
extraterrestrial but maybe from a

1797
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:48,799
different part of the galaxy entirely

1798
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:51,920
either that or they were exposed to

1799
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:54,400
a very high flux of

1800
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,200
high

1801
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:57,599
uh particulate radiation protons or

1802
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,359
neutrons or something like that and that

1803
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,119
can change and that can change the

1804
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:03,200
isotopic ratios

1805
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,640
yes

1806
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:06,799
wow that's really terrible if you put if

1807
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:09,520
you put a piece of aluminum or steel or

1808
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:12,079
something into a nuclear reactor

1809
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:13,359
even if you didn't even if it didn't

1810
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,280
make it radioactive it could change the

1811
01:08:18,269 --> 01:08:17,520
tnt ratios of stable isotopes of some of

1812
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:18,279
the elements

1813
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:19,759
[Music]

1814
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:22,400
so either either way though it's been

1815
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:25,440
it's not an ordinary piece of material

1816
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,040
wow that's really tantalizing and this

1817
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,279
is why it's always fascinated me so much

1818
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:30,880
the idea that

1819
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:33,279
we might have already in our possession

1820
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,080
the smoking gun that proves

1821
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,880
that may prove that

1822
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:40,880
someone from another star system visited

1823
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,510
yeah

1824
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:47,590
the government knows all about this

1825
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,480
stuff

1826
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:50,400
and

1827
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:52,000
whatever whatever people believe they're

1828
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:53,679
definitely uh concealing a lot of

1829
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,040
information that they know about the

1830
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,040
stuff from the public yeah i was going

1831
01:09:02,550 --> 01:08:59,679
to ask you just generally if you follow

1832
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,560
stuff in the field of ufos and

1833
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:04,400
like for example what do you think this

1834
01:09:09,189 --> 01:09:07,279
ttsa thing and

1835
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,199
i know there's there's a

1836
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,199
they have an effort underway

1837
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,359
that they're making a big show of

1838
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:15,040
about having some

1839
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:16,880
perhaps

1840
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,839
exotic materials or they're very careful

1841
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:21,839
not to say this came from aliens but

1842
01:09:25,749 --> 01:09:24,000
they seem to be hyping it that

1843
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:25,759
that it may have come from an alien

1844
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,920
spacecraft have you been following that

1845
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:29,600
and what do you think of that uh what's

1846
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:32,000
what's bt i'm trying west plus ptsa or

1847
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,400
ttsa to the stars academy with tom

1848
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:35,679
delong

1849
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,600
oh yeah yeah i've i've heard of them

1850
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:39,279
i've been following them though

1851
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:41,920
yeah apparently they have a new program

1852
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,319
that they're starting to analyze

1853
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:46,719
materials and that they have gotten to

1854
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:49,359
study that you know they haven't said

1855
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:52,000
this is from aliens but tom delong is

1856
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,440
kind of like a

1857
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:55,040
i don't know he's kind of like that guy

1858
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:56,800
that stands outside of the strip club

1859
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:58,239
getting people to come in you know what

1860
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:00,960
i mean like he's he's like the barker

1861
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:03,360
saying uh oh you know uh we have this

1862
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:05,760
program this is smoking gun and then

1863
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:07,040
this is

1864
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,960
visitation but then they just type it up

1865
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:12,960
pipe up the story and they have not

1866
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:15,040
released any of their data

1867
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,120
we're waiting yeah he's probably trying

1868
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,159
to get trying to get funding but um

1869
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:21,760
it is um

1870
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,120
when people

1871
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:25,120
hype and then don't release i think they

1872
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,800
raised 10 million but then there was

1873
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,560
some story that they were 40 million

1874
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,560
dollars in debt so that's i don't know

1875
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,560
how that happened like you raised 10

1876
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,120
million and you spent 40 somehow i were

1877
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:36,800
you know i could be wrong in that

1878
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,679
numbers but it's about that

1879
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,199
well maybe it's a maybe it's a

1880
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,880
government disinformation thing or

1881
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,400
something i don't i'm not really

1882
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:46,320
familiar with them but i do know that

1883
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,520
that um

1884
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,679
that most likely these these materials

1885
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:51,840
are not that uncommon for people to have

1886
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,199
pieces though i know the roswell

1887
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,520
material went all over the country after

1888
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:57,840
that crash and some of it's in civilian

1889
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:59,440
hands and even the stuff in the military

1890
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,640
ends uh

1891
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,320
you know got out and you know it's too

1892
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,560
good to be good to not play with and you

1893
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,800
know give pieces to people so a lot of

1894
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:08,159
people i've heard a lot of people have

1895
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:10,960
this stuff so um yeah i've heard i've

1896
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,679
heard similar stories and uh

1897
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:15,679
you know even known a few people who

1898
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,120
claim to have had

1899
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,400
pieces of wreckage and things like that

1900
01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:22,239
but the thing that always gets me is

1901
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:24,880
like so tantalizing like if this

1902
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:27,040
i don't understand the media

1903
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:30,480
or the lack of coverage like for example

1904
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:33,360
in your case you have all this material

1905
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:34,880
you can show that

1906
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,600
most likely wasn't manufactured or the

1907
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,840
material didn't come from this planet

1908
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,440
i've heard other stories that people

1909
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:43,280
could somehow prove that this material

1910
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,400
had to be manufactured in zero gravity

1911
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:48,159
you know i don't understand the lack of

1912
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:51,280
media interest or coverage

1913
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,120
of these things because to me it could

1914
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:55,520
be the smoking gun that proves

1915
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,880
a lot of

1916
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,199
people's theories i think i think i do

1917
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:01,120
understand it unfortunately and then

1918
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:04,719
it's due to i think it's just due to um

1919
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:06,640
straight out government interference

1920
01:12:11,669 --> 01:12:09,440
with uh with the um

1921
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,679
media and the democratic process in this

1922
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,400
case uh in the subject

1923
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:16,480
yeah a lot of people seem to think that

1924
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:18,480
there's you know this

1925
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:20,800
you know i mean most people are familiar

1926
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:22,960
with like majestic 12 and this kind of

1927
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,600
thing and they're covering everything up

1928
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:28,320
and i'm not sure what to believe but i

1929
01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:32,400
can i can use my critical thinking and i

1930
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:35,199
could imagine that if i had access to

1931
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,600
some technology that was i don't know

1932
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,679
ten thousand or maybe a hundred thousand

1933
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,679
years ahead of human technology i'd

1934
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,600
probably wanna keep that secret and see

1935
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,000
if i could figure it out and use it

1936
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,920
in some way yeah

1937
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,600
well that is reportedly what they're

1938
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:51,120
what they're doing they're trying to

1939
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,800
gain an edge over their adversaries by

1940
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,800
getting alien technology

1941
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:57,360
and um

1942
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,590
i can just tell you what my experience

1943
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:03,520
has been dr larry and i tried to publish

1944
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:04,880
a paper on

1945
01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:08,239
on the uh the john smith uh toe implant

1946
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,920
without even saying it was alien or

1947
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,360
anything else we just wanted to publish

1948
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:13,440
our findings in a journal and they

1949
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:14,800
they said they would they said they

1950
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,440
would publish it and then they um let me

1951
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,440
get the paper done um to their

1952
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:23,520
satisfaction and they then they totally

1953
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:24,880
changed their tune and said they weren't

1954
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:26,080
going to publish it so that was

1955
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,760
ridiculous and

1956
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,199
just gave a lot of

1957
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,280
a lot of nonsensical reasons why they

1958
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:33,120
would not publish it even

1959
01:13:36,090 --> 01:13:35,120
after they said that they would

1960
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,100
and um

1961
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,280
[Music]

1962
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:40,719
you know i just don't i just don't that

1963
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:43,120
is something any um any journal is going

1964
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,120
to touch this stuff because they're

1965
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:47,520
they're being threatened by the powers

1966
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,199
that be there their funding will be cut

1967
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:51,199
off or

1968
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,000
um

1969
01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:54,800
something bad will happen to them or

1970
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,080
you know a lot of people have died under

1971
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,320
mysterious circumstances

1972
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,080
they're connected with the subject and

1973
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,239
not so much lately but um

1974
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:05,040
like back in the 50s and 60s

1975
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,640
yeah there's plenty there's plenty of

1976
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,000
stories

1977
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:11,440
i happen to have a source

1978
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:14,080
and i can't really go too deep into him

1979
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,360
but uh

1980
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,679
he uh sort of claimed to be a real life

1981
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:20,320
man in black and all of his

1982
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,840
all his background and everything

1983
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,679
checked out when i looked into him very

1984
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:24,800
deeply

1985
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,520
and uh he told me some really disturbing

1986
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:29,520
stories about some of the things that he

1987
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:31,520
was forced to do

1988
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,920
in a case of uh you know

1989
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:35,360
people having

1990
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,120
let's just say

1991
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,360
extraterrestrial experiences or

1992
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,960
interaction

1993
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:42,960
and so i've heard these kind of stories

1994
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:48,470
yeah i can i don't have any any

1995
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:51,199
first-hand testimony of um

1996
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:53,840
of any violence uh done to anybody for

1997
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,159
sure but um there's certainly a lot of a

1998
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:58,560
lot of believable stories out there and

1999
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,400
um

2000
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:02,719
the the vehemence with which these

2001
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,920
people

2002
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:06,159
uh changed their mind into the 180 on

2003
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:08,239
publishing this paper

2004
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:09,760
was pretty convincing that something's

2005
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:12,000
going on to me personally or someone had

2006
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,760
spoken to them after they initially

2007
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:15,120
agreed right

2008
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:17,199
right it seemed it seemed like somebody

2009
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,239
sent somebody uh uh an authority to talk

2010
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:22,080
to them after they already agreed to

2011
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:23,760
publish it and they then change your

2012
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:25,360
mind that's exactly what it seemed like

2013
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,560
yeah that was going to be another one of

2014
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:29,280
my questions is is if you guys ever had

2015
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:31,360
a published peer-reviewed paper on on

2016
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:33,440
these materials but i guess not because

2017
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:35,920
of the resistance to uh no it wasn't it

2018
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:38,640
wasn't for lack of trying um i after

2019
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:40,480
that experience i i've come to the

2020
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,760
conclusion that

2021
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,280
peer review is

2022
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:45,360
a form of censorship that they that the

2023
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,520
power would be used to keep

2024
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,520
information that they don't wish to be

2025
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:52,080
in the scientific debate

2026
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,120
and scientific circles for debate out of

2027
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:58,080
that debate um

2028
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:59,040
and

2029
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,800
i think i think a better system would be

2030
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:02,400
just to

2031
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,520
submit unless there's evidence of fraud

2032
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,760
and let scientists uh

2033
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,320
worldwide as a whole makes their minds

2034
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,920
yeah that would seem to be the fairer

2035
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:16,239
way to go about it

2036
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:17,600
yeah i mean

2037
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:19,600
why not publish and if there's evidence

2038
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,960
of fraud that's a totally different

2039
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:22,400
story but

2040
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:26,239
if there's no evidence of fraud uh

2041
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,760
why not publish it it may be some

2042
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:29,600
breakthrough and you know

2043
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:32,320
a lot of people don't realize that

2044
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,280
breakthrough uh science

2045
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,679
often does seem ridiculous to people at

2046
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,280
first to other scientists at first

2047
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:40,719
because they don't know all the facts

2048
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:43,280
it's new it's based on new principles

2049
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:45,280
they haven't studied or haven't so

2050
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:47,360
yeah i'm sure about i'm sure an awful

2051
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,679
lot of people laughed at nikola tesla

2052
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:51,920
about a lot of his ideas before he

2053
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:54,320
proved them to be you know

2054
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:55,600
so

2055
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:01,120
ones that he's developed you know

2056
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:04,480
yeah and tesla's ideas were um were

2057
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:06,159
revolutionary i mean he had technology

2058
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,000
that was 200 years

2059
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:10,640
ahead of his time um and he correctly

2060
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,199
predicted the cell phone he and the

2061
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,280
world wide web and so many other things

2062
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,360
like he was just a way out of his time a

2063
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:19,600
big fan of tesla

2064
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:21,920
yeah me too and he um

2065
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:25,199
uh he really um

2066
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,960
had a lot of interesting he was a

2067
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,719
theoretician as well as an inventor and

2068
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,719
you know

2069
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,880
a unified field theory behind the scenes

2070
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:34,560
based on his work

2071
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:37,040
a few years after he died they just

2072
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:38,960
finished up what he was working on and

2073
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:44,310
i have reason to believe that they they

2074
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:47,120
advanced einstein the version of uh of

2075
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,480
theory in order to just to kind of

2076
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,239
make a lot of things they wanted to keep

2077
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:54,000
under wraps even possible like any

2078
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:56,159
gravity and faster than light travel

2079
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,760
well you know one of the funny things is

2080
01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:00,239
that when people when people uh when

2081
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:01,600
people don't quite believe that the

2082
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,239
government covers things up and you know

2083
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:06,960
keeps technology to themselves i always

2084
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:09,600
cite nikola tesla because they they went

2085
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,320
in

2086
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,480
right after he died and took all of his

2087
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:14,960
papers and those things are still

2088
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:17,360
still top secret and you can't get any

2089
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,040
of that information nobody knows what

2090
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:21,600
happened to any of his notes journals

2091
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:24,960
designs plans all of that's gone and the

2092
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:27,360
government the u.s government has it

2093
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:29,280
tesla knew how to do uh how to do

2094
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:31,040
several ways to do free energy and he

2095
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:33,600
knew how to do um antigravity

2096
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:36,239
and those two things

2097
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,840
are highly

2098
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,080
classified and ruthlessly suppressed to

2099
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:41,679
this day

2100
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,199
do you think that those two things are

2101
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:44,960
really really

2102
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:47,440
closely linked because it seems like

2103
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,199
they go together when somebody talks

2104
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,120
about one they're often talking about

2105
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:53,520
the other one like these these crafts

2106
01:18:58,709 --> 01:18:56,719
may be running on zero point energy

2107
01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:58,719
and have an anti-gravity propulsion

2108
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:01,840
system at together like those two things

2109
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:04,000
are related they're all um

2110
01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:05,760
in order for those things to be possible

2111
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:06,800
um

2112
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:09,040
uh it has to be based on there have to

2113
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:10,400
be an ether

2114
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:12,400
a space-time fabric that's full of

2115
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:13,600
energy

2116
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,640
and um in my opinion the space-time

2117
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:19,360
fabric or the the quantum field energy

2118
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,960
in the quantum mechanics talks about is

2119
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:22,719
the quantum field energy

2120
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:25,120
is responsible for all the four forces

2121
01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:26,719
of nature the nuclear forces the

2122
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:28,960
electromagnetic force and

2123
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,280
and gravitational forces and they're all

2124
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,880
they're all related

2125
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:34,719
like

2126
01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:37,360
you can derive newton's second law

2127
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:39,199
um if you if you assume that the

2128
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,719
assumption would be that the ether is

2129
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:43,040
full of electromagnetic energy

2130
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:45,760
you can as composed of particles with

2131
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:48,640
electromagnetic dipole and

2132
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,719
uh or magnetic and electric dipole

2133
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,360
moments that are much smaller than an

2134
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:55,840
atomic nucleus comparable to the size of

2135
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,679
the planck length 10 to the minus 34

2136
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,000
meters anyway if you assume the ether is

2137
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,600
like that

2138
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:03,679
you can derive newton's second law

2139
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:05,440
because there's electromagnetic drag

2140
01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:06,800
force

2141
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:08,719
on the subatomic particle the charges in

2142
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,960
the subatomic particles in matter when

2143
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,639
they accelerate through the ether of

2144
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:14,800
that type of structure

2145
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:15,520
so

2146
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:18,239
that's tantalizing

2147
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,040
and underneath like that the ether

2148
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,960
accelerating towards you

2149
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,880
with would be you would experience

2150
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:26,480
gravity and you accelerating through the

2151
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,270
well that's pretty interesting and um

2152
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:35,600
the nuclear forces may well be uh may

2153
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:36,800
well be at

2154
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:37,760
the

2155
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:40,560
uh sub-quantum manifestations of um of

2156
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:42,400
the electromagnetic force

2157
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:45,120
have you um have you ever seen

2158
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:47,760
as a side note on the free energy thing

2159
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:49,199
because i've played with some of this

2160
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:52,480
stuff and that's one of my big interests

2161
01:20:57,260 --> 01:20:54,480
have you ever seen like

2162
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:57,270
john hutchinson's crystal batteries

2163
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,400
[Music]

2164
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:00,800
yes obviously he decided i worked with

2165
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:03,120
him briefly and he told me about the

2166
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,120
great batteries can you tell us about

2167
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:07,760
that experience

2168
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:08,560
um

2169
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:15,199
he was using uh

2170
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:17,120
sodium bitartrate i believe it was of

2171
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:23,990
adding wires to ends of the crystal and

2172
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,639
had to be hydrated a certain way and

2173
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,480
i was very excited about it at first

2174
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,480
except for the fact that uh when i found

2175
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:31,760
out the fact that they hardly they

2176
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,280
hardly produce any current they produce

2177
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:34,639
voltage but

2178
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:39,669
yeah you need a little circuit called a

2179
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:42,320
jewel thief to keep like an led lit from

2180
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,960
one of them just a single led but i've

2181
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:46,239
made many of these

2182
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,400
pick up hundreds of them in order to um

2183
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:49,920
in order to

2184
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:51,920
create the useful power and he said he

2185
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:54,080
he said he had a device that that

2186
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:57,679
produced something like 20 20 volts and

2187
01:22:02,629 --> 01:22:00,400
a couple of amps but he couldn't

2188
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:02,639
remember how to reproduce it and when he

2189
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:03,840
tried to sell it to the canadian

2190
01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:05,600
government they weren't interested

2191
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:06,960
yeah i've already tried to sell that

2192
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:09,360
technology to japanese investors as well

2193
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,440
it's like uh you know like endless

2194
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,679
battery

2195
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:15,360
yeah because i know you never played

2196
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:16,639
that batteries

2197
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,239
certain other crystals can be made to

2198
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:20,159
work to you but

2199
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:22,080
he uh either

2200
01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:23,679
didn't want to talk about it or just

2201
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,520
forgotten i think you just forgot how to

2202
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:28,000
do it yeah i i played with that myself

2203
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:28,880
and that

2204
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,560
just epsom salts and uh i think it's uh

2205
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,400
rochelle salts and a few other

2206
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,320
components yeah rochelle's balls

2207
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,639
magnesium rod in the middle and with

2208
01:22:42,149 --> 01:22:40,800
that dual thief circuit

2209
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:42,159
i it

2210
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:44,880
it lit an led for over a year and then i

2211
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:47,840
kind of uh stopped playing with it but

2212
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,800
i've never

2213
01:22:52,629 --> 01:22:50,800
i would the step that i wanted to take

2214
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,639
was to make 100 of them

2215
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,480
and wire them in series or parallel to

2216
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:57,600
get usable current because you're right

2217
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,320
enough power to power an led is not very

2218
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:02,880
exciting but if you could multiply it

2219
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:06,159
but i never took it that far not yet

2220
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:07,440
but um

2221
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:09,440
that's still even if it's just

2222
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:11,679
enough power to light one led it's still

2223
01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:13,280
huge because that's a theoretical

2224
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:15,920
breakthrough that you can get power

2225
01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:17,840
from from nothing from just the fabric

2226
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,199
of space

2227
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:21,520
and it turns out that um

2228
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,840
from what i've read there uh from tesla

2229
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:25,520
working other than john's work and other

2230
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,360
other people's work there's probably

2231
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,239
several ways to do it

2232
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:32,560
there's cryptic crystals and there's

2233
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:33,600
there's a

2234
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,679
way you can do it with

2235
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:36,719
with

2236
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:39,520
transistors and there's

2237
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:40,960
a way you can do it with homopolar

2238
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:47,510
there was a guy that tesla did that and

2239
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,709
i forget the guy's name but he there was

2240
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,480
a guy more recently that did some work

2241
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:56,080
on that

2242
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:57,679
maybe john bedini i think you're

2243
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:03,270
i was saying no no it wasn't it wasn't

2244
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,600
bedini it was another other guy okay but

2245
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:07,920
i'll remember his name after

2246
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:10,560
after the interview but um

2247
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:13,520
in an event uh homophobe generators

2248
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,480
are

2249
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,400
one of the ways to do it and

2250
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:18,159
semiconductors another way crystal's

2251
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:20,320
another way

2252
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:21,840
and

2253
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,840
i think tesla knew all those different

2254
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:25,280
ways to

2255
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,480
enter key harvesting from the vacuum

2256
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:30,400
yeah wow what an interesting thing and

2257
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,239
and the fact that maybe a lot of that

2258
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:33,920
technology is suppressed i've heard a

2259
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:35,440
lot of stories about free energy

2260
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:37,679
inventors getting you know

2261
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:41,199
either paid off or uh intimidated or

2262
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:42,239
you know

2263
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:48,470
he reportedly had a device that would

2264
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,840
produce 50 kilowatts uh using a um

2265
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:53,840
a semiconductor uh

2266
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:56,239
method of harvesting energy um back in

2267
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,760
the 1930s

2268
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,360
and uh

2269
01:25:02,790 --> 01:25:00,960
they the the government tried to kill

2270
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,800
him several times he had to revert to

2271
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:04,639
carrying a gun everywhere he went

2272
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:05,600
to

2273
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:07,520
avoid being murdered well that's pretty

2274
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:09,840
scary and have you ever heard of

2275
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,639
have you ever heard of the uh uh the

2276
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:14,880
searle john searle and what do you think

2277
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:19,910
hello

2278
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:20,719
i

2279
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:35,280
worked to generate generate energy and

2280
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,960
the anti-gravity effect he claimed there

2281
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,560
was a there was a russian academy of

2282
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:40,880
sciences experiment that um

2283
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,669
yeah they really reproduced it so yeah i

2284
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:49,679
think it worked but his claims to have

2285
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,080
made spacecraft a working spacecraft

2286
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:54,400
with it i'm not sure i believe that yeah

2287
01:25:58,629 --> 01:25:55,679
i don't know there's a lot of there's a

2288
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,639
lot of things that indicated that he

2289
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:00,320
i knew somebody that

2290
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:02,239
basically made a model for him a

2291
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:03,920
non-working model

2292
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,719
that he ended up using in videos to show

2293
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:08,960
people like here's here's how this works

2294
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,040
but it didn't ever work he was never

2295
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:14,320
able to reproduce it a working model

2296
01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:16,800
but i i i think he's for some i don't i

2297
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,800
don't know why he why he lied about that

2298
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,159
but i'm pretty sure that he did lie

2299
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:21,760
about that i think what happened

2300
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:23,840
probably happened was he built one and

2301
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,679
it shot through the roof like he claimed

2302
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,400
and

2303
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,880
went off into space somewhere but

2304
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,719
you know building a building a prototype

2305
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,480
of a motor like that and building a

2306
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:34,320
working spacecraft around it you know

2307
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:35,920
that their light here is different i

2308
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,920
mean yeah i heard when the government's

2309
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:40,320
had anti-gravity spacecraft according to

2310
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:41,679
a lot of people for a long time and i

2311
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:43,600
heard they had tremendous problems with

2312
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,520
control and uh

2313
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:47,520
radiation from the

2314
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,960
exposure of the pilots and a lot of

2315
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,880
other things that had to be solved so

2316
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,960
i'm not sure when one one lone inventor

2317
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:54,560
could do that

2318
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:55,920
it's always been interesting to me that

2319
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:57,920
those things are always

2320
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:59,679
sort of talked about together like like

2321
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:01,440
you explained like free energy and

2322
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:03,360
anti-gravity somehow go together it's

2323
01:27:08,030 --> 01:27:05,600
the same forces it's kind of like

2324
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:08,040
electricity and magnetism you know

2325
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:09,280
[Music]

2326
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,760
yeah it's all interconnected

2327
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,199
and

2328
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:15,760
the the key the key in my opinion is to

2329
01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:17,440
figure out the structure of space and

2330
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,239
the resonance frequencies of space and

2331
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,920
time

2332
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:23,360
and do you think that your experience

2333
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:25,120
with any of these exotic materials in

2334
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:26,880
your possession has

2335
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,880
gotten you any closer to understanding

2336
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:30,639
something like free energy or something

2337
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:32,880
like any gravity technology

2338
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,639
have they given you some clues um i

2339
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:36,239
think i have a partial understanding of

2340
01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:37,920
it from talking to you from reading

2341
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:39,300
about the experiments of the

2342
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:40,400
[Music]

2343
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:42,719
the older inventors and talking to john

2344
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,639
hudson and reading

2345
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:46,560
reading tom bearden's material was very

2346
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:48,320
interesting i think he's uh he's very

2347
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,400
familiar with the classified uh i'm not

2348
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:51,920
sure if he's still alive or not but he i

2349
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,320
think he was very familiar with the um

2350
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:56,880
classified literature on the subject uh

2351
01:28:01,830 --> 01:28:00,239
based on the publications and what can i

2352
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:01,840
ask you because i'm a little bit

2353
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:04,320
skeptical of john hutchinson and some of

2354
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,120
his

2355
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:07,679
claims i'm not sure that richard

2356
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,920
explained to you but you know i happen

2357
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:12,719
to be a stage magician and have been

2358
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:14,880
for some long time

2359
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:15,840
and

2360
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:17,440
some of his videos

2361
01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:20,000
i could fake very easily in my basement

2362
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:22,159
by turning a camera upside down

2363
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:23,920
and one of the things about hutchinson's

2364
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,320
that's always bothered me is that

2365
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:28,639
he has this incredible effect but then

2366
01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:31,440
he can't reproduce it when he's asked to

2367
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,840
and that kind of well he he had taken he

2368
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:35,679
had taken all that stuff down and sold

2369
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:38,000
it to the germans um by the time i

2370
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:39,760
started working with him and i i didn't

2371
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:41,600
work with him very long so i never i

2372
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:43,840
never saw the effect produced

2373
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,480
but based on based on the the circuit

2374
01:28:50,709 --> 01:28:48,480
diagrams he showed me and based on my

2375
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:50,719
own theories i think that that it

2376
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,400
probably would have worked and he and he

2377
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:53,760
said when he had it set up he could

2378
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,990
i've seen him use these sonar or some

2379
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,040
kind of uh

2380
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,600
transducer devices to move objects but

2381
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:05,360
i've never seen him reproduce the

2382
01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:08,000
floating effect

2383
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:09,920
so that's always gonna be kind of like

2384
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:11,440
wow

2385
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:12,560
when i was when i was there they were

2386
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,000
trying to neutralize radioactive

2387
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:15,760
material with uh

2388
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:19,600
scalar waves um and um

2389
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,440
um i was quite frustrated because um

2390
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:24,880
we saw some

2391
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:29,920
strange effects on on a couple occasions

2392
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:30,880
and

2393
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:32,960
they would refuse to refuse to try to

2394
01:29:36,830 --> 01:29:35,520
reproduce the experiments i i don't know

2395
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:36,840
what was going on

2396
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,520
there his wife especially was most

2397
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:41,760
uncooperative

2398
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:44,000
yeah it's kind of it's kind of like uh

2399
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,239
just a tantalizing thing like every once

2400
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:48,639
in a while i i because of my experience

2401
01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:50,159
with those crystal batteries which

2402
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,159
absolutely work do they produce a lot of

2403
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,239
current just no

2404
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,719
uh yeah just enough to win it every day

2405
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:58,880
but that was that was tantalizing enough

2406
01:30:01,990 --> 01:30:01,040
for me and to be quite honest

2407
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:02,000
you know i've

2408
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:04,000
had a lifelong interest in science and

2409
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,960
because of

2410
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,800
the things that i do in magic i'm pretty

2411
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,400
good with chemistry and some other

2412
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:10,320
things i make my own

2413
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,159
sort of special effects devices and

2414
01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:14,239
stuff to help with the shows

2415
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:16,159
but i don't understand how those crystal

2416
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:18,800
batteries work have no idea all i did

2417
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:20,400
was follow the instructions and one of

2418
01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:22,239
his this is how i make these battery

2419
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:24,480
videos and it worked

2420
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,440
and

2421
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:27,199
i got to see something along the lines

2422
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:28,560
of the the structure of the the

2423
01:30:33,270 --> 01:30:30,320
structure and the internal the internal

2424
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:33,280
dipoles and the crystal polarizes space

2425
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:36,960
and uh and causes it to continue to

2426
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,280
produce an even higher voltage than the

2427
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:41,360
internal voltage in the crystal i think

2428
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,800
it's something like that yeah i mean i

2429
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:44,560
have a basic understanding of it but

2430
01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:46,800
it's just still mystifying to me and i

2431
01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:50,159
got to see the naysayers because you

2432
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:51,840
know i have all these friends that you

2433
01:30:56,229 --> 01:30:54,159
go that that's [\h__\h] that's that

2434
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:56,239
doesn't work and i say

2435
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:58,400
uh well this thing has been lighting an

2436
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:01,600
led in my basement on my workbench for a

2437
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:02,560
year

2438
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:05,280
you can't do that with a regular battery

2439
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:06,480
you know and i think it would have kept

2440
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:08,480
going but i just at one point was moving

2441
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:10,960
things around and i disconnected it but

2442
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:12,800
i checked it a few months later

2443
01:31:17,830 --> 01:31:15,360
reconnected it led lights right back up

2444
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:17,840
it's very tantalizing and i don't know

2445
01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:19,120
why uh

2446
01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:20,480
i guess that

2447
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:22,400
that research into those crystal

2448
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:25,280
batteries is not being done by like

2449
01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:27,760
academic scientists or

2450
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:29,199
you know why is it some guy in his

2451
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:31,199
garage like me that has to build these

2452
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:33,520
things and say look here's a working

2453
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:35,760
example it's a tiny tiny amount

2454
01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:36,880
because

2455
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:38,480
they make a tremendous amount of amount

2456
01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:40,400
of profit on the current system of

2457
01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:43,280
generating of generating energy they um

2458
01:31:47,350 --> 01:31:45,600
you know they they drill they drill uh

2459
01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:47,360
for oil and it doesn't cost that much

2460
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:48,639
money and then you get

2461
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:50,320
thirty thousand barrels a day from some

2462
01:31:53,830 --> 01:31:52,000
of these wells and sell it for fifty to

2463
01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:53,840
a hundred dollars a barrel and um you

2464
01:31:57,030 --> 01:31:55,440
have to burn mega tons of the stuff to

2465
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:57,040
generate a great amount of electricity

2466
01:32:01,669 --> 01:31:59,199
and it doesn't get any better than that

2467
01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:01,679
profit margin wise yeah i've heard

2468
01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:02,960
are you one of the people that believe

2469
01:32:08,950 --> 01:32:05,360
that the oil industry and

2470
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:11,510
group of individuals or corporations

2471
01:32:16,550 --> 01:32:13,600
actually actively suppress those

2472
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:16,560
technologies because i think i do um

2473
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:18,960
yeah and i i think the conclusion is

2474
01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:20,480
inescapable i mean i didn't believe it

2475
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:21,840
at first but

2476
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:23,520
the evidence is certainly certainly

2477
01:32:26,470 --> 01:32:25,440
there i mean they don't even want they

2478
01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:26,480
didn't even want more efficient

2479
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:28,159
carburetor designs on the market let

2480
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:30,560
alone free energy i mean i've heard of a

2481
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:33,600
guy that invented invented a um a better

2482
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:36,239
carburetor that produced that heated the

2483
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,120
fuel up first and and injected gas into

2484
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:41,280
the cylinder rather than liquid so it

2485
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:42,880
burned more efficiently and they they

2486
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:44,320
bought that up and

2487
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:45,920
shut off the market same with another

2488
01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:47,920
guy

2489
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:49,679
it doesn't make any sense they buy it

2490
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:52,480
and they shelf it they just you know and

2491
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:54,800
it's gone

2492
01:32:58,310 --> 01:32:56,480
because that way that way they make more

2493
01:33:00,310 --> 01:32:58,320
money off oil

2494
01:33:01,669 --> 01:33:00,320
they lose billions of more efficient

2495
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,679
carburetor designs so they were not

2496
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:03,760
running out of oil there's plenty of oil

2497
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:04,960
if they were running out they wouldn't

2498
01:33:09,350 --> 01:33:07,520
do that and you know one of my one of my

2499
01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:09,360
other big interests in the field of ufos

2500
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:11,199
has been the bob lazar story and i'm

2501
01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:12,960
torn back and forth

2502
01:33:16,550 --> 01:33:14,560
because uh

2503
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,560
growing up you know that's really what

2504
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:18,159
ignited my interest i think i was in

2505
01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:19,120
like

2506
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:20,800
i don't know maybe seventh or eighth

2507
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:23,040
grade maybe seventh grade sixth grade

2508
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:25,360
even when that story came out and i was

2509
01:33:30,950 --> 01:33:28,239
just entranced by that story i was like

2510
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:30,960
here's a guy that worked down and here i

2511
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:32,639
totally i totally believe the guy by the

2512
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:35,280
way that's what i was gonna ask you see

2513
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:38,880
i sometimes you know i i tend to be very

2514
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,760
uh

2515
01:33:44,470 --> 01:33:41,520
very skeptical

2516
01:33:46,950 --> 01:33:44,480
mostly about a lot of paranormal claims

2517
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:46,960
because i have

2518
01:33:52,149 --> 01:33:49,040
as a magician i have

2519
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:52,159
went to see i'd say more than a hundred

2520
01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:53,040
different

2521
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:54,400
psychics

2522
01:33:59,430 --> 01:33:57,360
not one was was real they were all using

2523
01:34:02,149 --> 01:33:59,440
tricks that i learned when i was a child

2524
01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:02,159
oh yeah i mean you know so i kind of i

2525
01:34:06,149 --> 01:34:04,000
know i know i know a couple of i know a

2526
01:34:08,629 --> 01:34:06,159
couple of psychics i think are real that

2527
01:34:11,189 --> 01:34:08,639
the vast majority of psychics that claim

2528
01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:11,199
their psychics are frauds so i kind of

2529
01:34:15,189 --> 01:34:13,280
apply that critical thinking to to the

2530
01:34:17,669 --> 01:34:15,199
ufo field as well

2531
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:17,679
and uh i don't know that bob lazar thing

2532
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:20,159
has always been so tantalizing to me and

2533
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,120
i even found a new witness that put him

2534
01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:25,920
on the janet airline flying into area 51

2535
01:34:28,870 --> 01:34:27,760
it's a previous guest on on our show

2536
01:34:30,270 --> 01:34:28,880
here

2537
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:30,280
and so that made me go

2538
01:34:33,189 --> 01:34:31,360
[Music]

2539
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:33,199
well at least we know

2540
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:35,920
that he flew into area 51. i don't know

2541
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:38,080
what he did there he could have you know

2542
01:34:41,669 --> 01:34:40,080
right a lot of critics say he could have

2543
01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:41,679
been a low-level technician it doesn't

2544
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:43,119
prove anything like when people heard

2545
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:45,280
that show and also they also they also

2546
01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:50,550
so that's something that he worked out

2547
01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:52,239
at los alamos yes and he was in the

2548
01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:54,880
classified briefing so i got another

2549
01:34:59,510 --> 01:34:57,280
shot of like maybe just maybe but when i

2550
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,520
had my show with this new witness that

2551
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:01,679
put him on the janet airlines

2552
01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:03,199
i got a hundred emails from people

2553
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:05,360
saying well he could have been the phone

2554
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:08,080
technician at area 51 for all we know or

2555
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,080
the janitor it doesn't prove that he

2556
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:13,040
worked on the alien spacecraft

2557
01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:14,960
the thing is that he i saw a video of

2558
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:16,960
his one time and he outlined the theory

2559
01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:18,560
of gravity that made a lot more sense to

2560
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:20,960
me than what's in the textbooks and it

2561
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:22,719
goes along the lines with the um the

2562
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:24,560
ether theories i was talking about and

2563
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:26,560
um yeah that's why i wanted to ask you

2564
01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:29,280
because you're you know sometimes i

2565
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:30,080
think

2566
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:32,080
maybe i'm too critical because i'm not

2567
01:35:36,790 --> 01:35:35,679
educated enough in science to tell

2568
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:36,800
if these

2569
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:38,080
you're right he's got a whole video

2570
01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:39,840
where he explains it this is exactly how

2571
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:42,560
the craft worked and operated i'm not a

2572
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:44,400
scientist so

2573
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:46,480
to me it could be real or it could be

2574
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:47,760
science fiction but you're

2575
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:50,080
scientifically trained so i wanted to

2576
01:35:53,830 --> 01:35:51,920
see what someone like you thinks of that

2577
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:53,840
theory of how he says

2578
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:55,760
it's hard to say whether

2579
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:57,520
just on just on the face of the video

2580
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,679
whether it's all true or not but the the

2581
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,400
description of gravity certainly um

2582
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:04,560
certainly uh made more sense to me and

2583
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:05,840
um

2584
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:08,000
he was saying that uh the the reactor in

2585
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:10,800
the craft was element 115 that was was

2586
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:13,199
hit by a proton from accelerator that

2587
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:15,199
would change to element 116 and

2588
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:16,800
instantly fission

2589
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:17,600
and

2590
01:36:22,830 --> 01:36:21,040
element 115 may well be stable at least

2591
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:22,840
element 115

2592
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:27,199
isotope 299 that he described it being

2593
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:29,199
it may well be stable like you said and

2594
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:30,639
it would have a high melting point or

2595
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:32,560
higher melting point than than than you

2596
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:33,760
would expect

2597
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:35,360
because the relativistic effects on the

2598
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:38,000
electrons because

2599
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:40,400
a highly charged nucleus

2600
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:44,080
and element 116 might well be unstable

2601
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:44,880
um

2602
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,480
and that's that makes sense it might

2603
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:47,920
instantly fission especially if there

2604
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,520
was a high-energy proton hitting it i

2605
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:51,440
did some calculations indicating that if

2606
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:53,920
you if you fissioned

2607
01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:57,280
um element 115 into four fragments

2608
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:59,040
rather than just two which might well be

2609
01:37:02,229 --> 01:37:00,560
what will happen with such a heavy

2610
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:02,239
element um

2611
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:04,000
that would be almost enough energy to

2612
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:05,920
create an antiproton like you said

2613
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,390
so so some of the some of the science

2614
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,719
that he's talking about that you as a

2615
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:16,719
trained scientist think is at least

2616
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:19,199
theoretically possible

2617
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:22,719
and we'd have to see it in the lab see

2618
01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:24,000
it happen in the lab they're not for

2619
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,119
sure but

2620
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:28,080
uh it's it's it does not violate any any

2621
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:31,199
of the basic laws of physics

2622
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,360
wow that's uh you know like i said his

2623
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:35,040
story has always been one that like

2624
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:37,119
started me off on this like let me go

2625
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:39,679
down this rabbit hole and i always joke

2626
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:41,119
like if i ever meet him i don't know if

2627
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:42,480
i'm gonna punch him in the face or give

2628
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:47,990
but um and one thing that one thing that

2629
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,719
that really was uh also a bit of

2630
01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:52,480
evidence in his favor too that i found

2631
01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:53,600
out that

2632
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:57,040
that uh on in the fine print on these uh

2633
01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,639
contracts that you have to sign to get a

2634
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,800
security clearance it does say that one

2635
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:02,400
of the penalties for breaking security

2636
01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:04,110
is loss of academic credentials

2637
01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:05,360
[Music]

2638
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:07,040
you know what better way to to keep a

2639
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,560
guy from ever working in that field

2640
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,000
again i mean

2641
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,480
uh all you'd have to do is go up to

2642
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:14,400
whatever school you went to and flash a

2643
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:17,440
cia or nsaid and say let me use your

2644
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:18,719
computer and then

2645
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:21,440
erase all records to a degree yeah i

2646
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:23,600
i've never heard that before do you know

2647
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:25,440
if i could get a printed copy of some

2648
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:27,360
kind of contract that says that because

2649
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:28,960
i would love to have that

2650
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:30,960
i don't i don't have one but i've just

2651
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,320
heard people that have had security

2652
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,040
clearances say that wow okay well that's

2653
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,560
something that i can definitely research

2654
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:38,400
i'm pretty good at digging for documents

2655
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,320
and things like that right

2656
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:41,840
that's a tip i've never heard before and

2657
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,360
that would explain why

2658
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,639
suddenly he's

2659
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:46,560
he's doesn't have any academic

2660
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:48,880
credentials one of the things and i've

2661
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:50,560
asked i don't know if you've heard but

2662
01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:51,760
you know of course there's going to be

2663
01:38:56,470 --> 01:38:54,480
this bob lazar and flying saucers film

2664
01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:56,480
by jeremy corbell which you have some

2665
01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:00,159
experience with in the patient 17 film

2666
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:02,080
which by the way i want to encourage my

2667
01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:04,880
listeners you got to see that patient 17

2668
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:06,560
film if you're interested in any of

2669
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:08,080
these things we're talking about tonight

2670
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,920
it's great film

2671
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,520
one of the things that i was i've been

2672
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:13,840
kind of pushing

2673
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:16,239
mr corbell to do

2674
01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:18,480
is ask bob lazar for a copy of his

2675
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:19,679
thesis

2676
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:20,560
because

2677
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:22,880
here's here's my thing on on the bob

2678
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:32,709
how long does it take to write a thesis

2679
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,119
in your opinion

2680
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:37,520
it depends i mean i i think it typically

2681
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,880
takes about a year exactly so my point

2682
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:43,199
with mr corbell is

2683
01:39:47,270 --> 01:39:45,760
uh who by the way i should say like i

2684
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,280
have tremendous respect for jeremy

2685
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,199
corbell i love his films i love his work

2686
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:51,600
i think he's artistic he's great

2687
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,440
i'm a big fan of his work

2688
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:55,920
but you know i kind of think in the case

2689
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,280
of of bob lazar he's kind of like

2690
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:01,360
piling up to bob lazar and hanging out

2691
01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:03,040
with him and i don't know that he could

2692
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,520
be totally objective when it comes to

2693
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:07,679
telling the story so

2694
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:09,440
the only thing that i really want is for

2695
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:11,760
him to ask him for a copy of his thesis

2696
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:12,960
because

2697
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:15,280
i don't know anyone who would work on

2698
01:40:19,669 --> 01:40:17,360
something for a solid year of their life

2699
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:19,679
and not keep a copy of it

2700
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:23,119
and my point has always been if he for

2701
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,360
if he produced a thesis

2702
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:27,440
he should have a copy of it even if they

2703
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:30,639
erased his academic credentials or had

2704
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:33,199
them revoked or you know he should have

2705
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,760
a copy of his thesis most people

2706
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:36,960
if they spent a year of their life

2707
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:38,880
working on something they've got a copy

2708
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,000
of it

2709
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:42,639
and so far that's the one question that

2710
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,040
i would ask him if i could i haven't

2711
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,760
gotten to yet i hope someday too

2712
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:49,679
produce the copy of the thesis so that

2713
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:51,679
we can see

2714
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:54,400
yeah maybe maybe you can or maybe the it

2715
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:55,760
could be the truth of somewhere in

2716
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:57,600
between maybe maybe

2717
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,440
he has some sort of a physics degree but

2718
01:41:02,070 --> 01:41:00,960
just not a phd

2719
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:02,080
yeah

2720
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,080
that's been my theory for a long time is

2721
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,000
a lot of people

2722
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:08,400
embellish their resumes quite a bit you

2723
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:11,119
know quite honestly i

2724
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:14,000
my only education outside of high school

2725
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:16,080
has been community college

2726
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:17,920
but you'd be amazed at the places that

2727
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:19,520
i've worked doing computer science

2728
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:22,239
drexel university and a whole bunch of

2729
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:24,400
other places these days these days on

2730
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:25,679
these days with the internet if you're a

2731
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:28,000
determined researcher you can get

2732
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,719
as much knowledge from your desk at home

2733
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,639
exactly

2734
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:34,480
so my point has always been

2735
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:36,960
you know knowing some of the places that

2736
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,800
i've worked with

2737
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:40,159
you know like

2738
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,239
not even a finished community college

2739
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:43,760
associate's degree

2740
01:41:48,550 --> 01:41:46,480
i've gotten some crazy jobs

2741
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,560
as a computer you know

2742
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,800
at managed services and building servers

2743
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:52,320
and doing all this stuff

2744
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,119
and uh so i've never held it against him

2745
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,280
if if he embellished his resume but he's

2746
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:59,199
never admitted that he's stuck to his

2747
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:01,360
story that no i went to mit you know i

2748
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:03,840
went to caltech so i guess my point has

2749
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:05,920
always been where's the thesis then you

2750
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,840
should have a copy of the thesis

2751
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,080
well maybe maybe he does but both

2752
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:11,679
players will we'll probably see at some

2753
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,119
point but um

2754
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:15,760
um mit and to just to play devil's

2755
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,360
advocate here for a minute i mean the

2756
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,440
mit and cal tech in my opinion they're

2757
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:21,360
just just exactly the kind of schools

2758
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:23,199
would be most likely to cooperate with a

2759
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:24,960
government request like that to wipe out

2760
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:27,199
somebody's degree yeah they do a lot of

2761
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:29,280
government work don't they

2762
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,560
yeah they get an awful lot of funding

2763
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,560
that they wouldn't want to jeopardize

2764
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,239
yeah that's been kind of my that's been

2765
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:36,480
kind of my thought they're so entrenched

2766
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:38,560
darpa and everything didn't darpa start

2767
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,719
at mit i think so

2768
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:43,040
yeah i believe so no yeah so they're

2769
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:45,440
pretty intertwined and you know in bed

2770
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,520
with the government i agree with you if

2771
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:49,199
the government went to them and said

2772
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:51,280
where's this guy's records erase him

2773
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:53,440
they would but the other point is that

2774
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:55,760
even even like the uh

2775
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:57,360
even the yearbooks and things like that

2776
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:59,760
he's not in any of them and you know so

2777
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:01,280
it's a mystery

2778
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,080
what went on with his education

2779
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:06,239
but i do kind of agree with i do kind of

2780
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,320
agree with jeremy on one point

2781
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:10,800
honestly when you look at snowden he was

2782
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,480
a high school dropout and look at the

2783
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:15,280
projects that he worked on i don't care

2784
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:17,920
i don't care if if he never went to mit

2785
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:19,600
i don't care if he never went to caltech

2786
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:22,480
i care if the story about the technology

2787
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:24,719
is true formal education is a bit a bit

2788
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:27,679
overrated especially these days and um

2789
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:29,119
uh it's not

2790
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:30,800
just to show you with snowden that it's

2791
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:33,520
not what you know it's who you know

2792
01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:35,840
we get you the jobs anyway yeah that i

2793
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:37,840
agree with you on i mean i never went to

2794
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,119
college and then a few years ago i

2795
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:40,960
decided you know i should give it a try

2796
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,880
and then i went and uh

2797
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:44,480
i just couldn't believe like this was

2798
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,960
the like some of the the professors that

2799
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,800
they had teaching computer science one

2800
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:50,080
of them didn't know the difference

2801
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:52,159
between windows and mac os i thought it

2802
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,639
was the same thing and i i'm like really

2803
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,639
i'm paying money to come here and and

2804
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:59,280
you're teaching this class this is crazy

2805
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:01,040
you know well computer science changes

2806
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,400
so fast that it's one of these things

2807
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:04,320
you could do that you can learn

2808
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,310
i've always been self-taught and i

2809
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:16,000
always thought it was funny like

2810
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:18,800
i i built linux servers for the drexel

2811
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:22,400
robotics lab uh maybe 10 years ago and

2812
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:24,719
drexel is known it's not mit but it's

2813
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,639
known to be like a really technically

2814
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:28,639
advanced college like they have the best

2815
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:30,880
computer systems and and i thought it

2816
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:32,800
was funny like you guys are bringing in

2817
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,600
like uh you're bringing in me to build

2818
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:37,360
these things like you don't have anybody

2819
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:38,800
around here that could do this for you

2820
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,520
like this is crazy to me but it's

2821
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,119
specialized knowledge

2822
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:44,880
they didn't have it and i did so i got

2823
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:47,520
to go in there in a in a robotics lab of

2824
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:49,920
all things and build linux servers i

2825
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:56,390
that's right so i guess one of the other

2826
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:58,000
questions i wanted to talk to you about

2827
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:58,719
is

2828
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,239
what's next for you like what are you

2829
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,320
going to do going forward in the field

2830
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,480
of ufos and these alien implants you're

2831
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:05,920
going to try to continue your work that

2832
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:07,679
you've done so far

2833
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:09,920
yeah i'm going to try to i've been on

2834
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:12,080
kind of on hold for a while because of

2835
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:14,880
lack of funding and having to deal with

2836
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:18,080
fallout from my messy divorce that

2837
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:20,000
may have had something to do with uh

2838
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:22,719
government influence um

2839
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:26,080
i know my my ex was uh

2840
01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:27,920
working with government people for a

2841
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:29,360
while there and

2842
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:31,679
so maybe they i suspected they were

2843
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:33,280
funding part of the divorce i've never

2844
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:34,719
seen i don't know how she got all the

2845
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:37,440
money to do what she did otherwise

2846
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,639
they were bugging me

2847
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:40,560
they were bugging my telephones and she

2848
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:42,080
was getting all kinds of information on

2849
01:45:45,390 --> 01:45:44,080
me and stuff and so just a lot of weird

2850
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:45,400
stuff happened and uh

2851
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:46,639
[Music]

2852
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:48,000
so you think you were like under

2853
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:49,440
surveillance because of your work on

2854
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:51,360
these things

2855
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:53,040
yeah i'm pretty sure

2856
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:58,709
bugged and such and um followed around

2857
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,679
did you see the people following you

2858
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:02,960
yeah i've definitely seen people

2859
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:04,639
following me before were they like

2860
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:07,440
government types like men in black kind

2861
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:09,280
of thing

2862
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:11,199
uh it's usually just people in white

2863
01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:12,400
vans or

2864
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,560
it could be any any type of vehicle but

2865
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:16,639
you know just if you

2866
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:17,840
if you

2867
01:46:21,189 --> 01:46:19,600
if they turn as you turn and all that

2868
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,199
you can just just definitely tell

2869
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:23,040
they're following you after a while but

2870
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,719
mainly it's people in white vans it's

2871
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,560
not men in black but

2872
01:46:30,149 --> 01:46:28,480
um

2873
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,159
and then in black they describe are

2874
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,800
mostly it might be in nsa agents because

2875
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,320
they um

2876
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:36,400
they reportedly have jurisdiction over

2877
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:38,560
alien activity in the us

2878
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:40,239
yeah the source that i mentioned the

2879
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:42,719
source that i mentioned was a military

2880
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:46,320
intelligence officer and later nsa

2881
01:46:50,709 --> 01:46:49,040
that's who he worked for and like i said

2882
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:50,719
that guy sort of claimed to be like a

2883
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:52,320
real-life man in black from all the

2884
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:53,679
stories that he told me it's kind of

2885
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,040
like

2886
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:57,119
you hear the stories

2887
01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:59,600
of men in black let's say and then when

2888
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:01,600
i talk to him as a source and he starts

2889
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:03,440
telling me some stories it's kind of

2890
01:47:07,750 --> 01:47:05,840
like hearing the other side and it's

2891
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:07,760
really bizarre it's really bizarre to

2892
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:09,600
hear it from the other side of like this

2893
01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:11,280
is who i intimidated

2894
01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:13,199
this is what they saw this is what i did

2895
01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:14,480
i went and i

2896
01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:16,320
you know

2897
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:19,679
just one quick story is that some

2898
01:47:25,350 --> 01:47:22,800
ufo ejected something

2899
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:25,360
from the ufo and then flew off and these

2900
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:27,440
people in the farm sort of grabbed it

2901
01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:28,800
you know and it was some kind of molten

2902
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:31,199
metal or you know but

2903
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:32,480
yeah

2904
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:34,080
quite frequently

2905
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,880
and uh this guy intimidated the hell out

2906
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:38,880
of them threatened them like crazy and

2907
01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:40,320
took the object

2908
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:42,000
and it's weird to hear it from a

2909
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:43,920
different perspective and i hope someday

2910
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:46,560
to get him to to talk more but

2911
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:48,960
guys the most paranoid man i've ever met

2912
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,330
in my life it's weird

2913
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:51,920
[Music]

2914
01:47:56,629 --> 01:47:54,719
the most what the most paranoid man i've

2915
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:56,639
ever met yeah oh yeah

2916
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:58,960
i mean i'm really paranoid and he's in

2917
01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:01,040
his 70s but he is

2918
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:03,520
incredibly cautious incredibly paranoid

2919
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,960
and uh

2920
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:07,440
you know very very careful

2921
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:09,920
and uh it's almost like uh it's like a

2922
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:11,920
comic book trying to meet this guy and

2923
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,840
speak to him it's weird it's really

2924
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:15,520
strange

2925
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,480
yeah

2926
01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:18,400
about um

2927
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,040
well the uh it's reported also that um

2928
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:23,199
in addition to the nsa agents being men

2929
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:24,960
and black that the aliens have their own

2930
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,960
security squad too that's not seen as

2931
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:29,679
much anymore as it used to be that um

2932
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:32,480
is made up of uh hybrids or androids or

2933
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,679
something made of that wear brand new

2934
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:37,199
black suits and

2935
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:40,080
black top hats and fedoras

2936
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:46,629
seems really strange to me

2937
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:48,320
you know i guess i guess one of the

2938
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:50,000
other things i wanted to ask you and i

2939
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:51,840
ask everybody this question that's been

2940
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,080
following this kind of stuff for a while

2941
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,159
or interested as deeply especially

2942
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:58,560
people that are deeply interested

2943
01:49:01,670 --> 01:49:00,800
and all that you have read seen and

2944
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:01,680
experienced

2945
01:49:04,890 --> 01:49:02,880
[Music]

2946
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:04,900
why do you think they're here

2947
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:06,639
[Music]

2948
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:08,560
if they are here i think

2949
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,480
this is based based on

2950
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:12,320
you know interviews with

2951
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,480
about 200 people that have done

2952
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,800
implant scans on and talking to people

2953
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:18,880
at conferences and such um

2954
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,040
and all i've read and everything

2955
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:22,800
and

2956
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:24,560
for what it's worth in my opinion i

2957
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,239
think they're here to

2958
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:28,480
mine the earth and the moon

2959
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:30,639
for elements that are not common where

2960
01:49:35,589 --> 01:49:32,800
they come from um

2961
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:35,599
titanium and gold being two of the two

2962
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:37,199
of the elements that i think they're

2963
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:39,119
after

2964
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,119
and um and

2965
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:42,400
cobalt has some people said they're

2966
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:44,000
after cobalt too

2967
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:45,599
and um

2968
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:48,320
i think they're here to mine uh if you

2969
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:51,520
want to call it that also dna from uh

2970
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:54,960
humans and animals and

2971
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:57,679
they're engaged in a uh a program to

2972
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:59,520
create hybrids between

2973
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:00,880
um

2974
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:06,719
allegedly succeeded in that that's a

2975
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:08,960
scary that's a scary rabbit hole to go

2976
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:10,800
down that i've been down we had barbara

2977
01:50:14,709 --> 01:50:12,800
lamb who's uh

2978
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:14,719
wrote that book meet the hybrids

2979
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:15,920
recently

2980
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:17,520
but i'm not sure yeah

2981
01:50:21,109 --> 01:50:18,960
i'm not sure he actually asked me for

2982
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:21,119
some information on um

2983
01:50:23,910 --> 01:50:22,159
on

2984
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:23,920
what i knew about hybrids for that for

2985
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:26,000
that book oh yeah

2986
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:27,360
i didn't know that

2987
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:29,040
you know i was kind of skeptical of her

2988
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:31,599
book i read it and uh it sounds good

2989
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,280
it's but to me it reads kind of like

2990
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:35,199
science fiction and i kind of challenged

2991
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:36,880
her to

2992
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,760
get any of these uh people that claim to

2993
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:41,760
be a hybrid to submit to some dna

2994
01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:43,679
analysis and i offered to pay for it and

2995
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:46,000
so far my phone hasn't rung

2996
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:47,360
and i don't think it will

2997
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:49,119
[Music]

2998
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:51,199
well i i think that yeah there's no real

2999
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:53,679
evidence yet but i think they're i think

3000
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:54,880
they're seeing will be in the form of

3001
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:56,480
dna testing because it's getting better

3002
01:51:01,270 --> 01:50:58,880
and better and more and more

3003
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:01,280
precise yeah that was my point with her

3004
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,800
is kind of like well

3005
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:04,159
these people are claiming psychic

3006
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:06,480
abilities and that they're half alien or

3007
01:51:10,750 --> 01:51:08,000
something like that so

3008
01:51:13,270 --> 01:51:10,760
i would think that even a you know

3009
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:13,280
ancestry.com cheap dna test would show

3010
01:51:17,589 --> 01:51:15,440
some kind of weirdness in their dna if

3011
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,599
they submit it to even that but none of

3012
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:20,000
them will

3013
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:21,760
23andme

3014
01:51:27,589 --> 01:51:23,840
does a more sophisticated analysis and

3015
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,830
i hear it's actually um it's actually

3016
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:31,760
cost effective now or you know not not

3017
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:33,360
prohibitively expensive to sequence the

3018
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:34,880
entire

3019
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,320
genome and

3020
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:38,880
in order to for sure find out if the

3021
01:51:43,030 --> 01:51:41,199
aliens did do some work on on somebody

3022
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:43,040
and alter their dna in order to find out

3023
01:51:46,830 --> 01:51:44,239
what they did

3024
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:46,840
you'd have to sequence the entire

3025
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:46,960
yeah though right it's pretty expensive

3026
01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:52,790
but it'll soon be a lot cheaper and

3027
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:55,119
in the era where we can do uh

3028
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:57,520
sequencing the entire genome uh cheaply

3029
01:52:01,189 --> 01:51:59,360
which is coming up in probably 10 years

3030
01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:01,199
um i think a lot more evidence is going

3031
01:52:05,189 --> 01:52:03,199
to come to light that there are hybrids

3032
01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:05,199
among us but that's a speculation at

3033
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,870
yeah and and i guess the other question

3034
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:12,880
that i i've been asking everybody that's

3035
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:14,560
interested in this field is just about

3036
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:15,599
everybody that's familiar with the

3037
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:17,599
aliens that claims abduction and says

3038
01:52:20,070 --> 01:52:18,960
that's what they're working on so that's

3039
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:20,080
hard that's a

3040
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,159
a large body of anecdotal evidence

3041
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:24,000
that's hard to ignore at the same time

3042
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:25,599
yeah definitely a lot of circumstantial

3043
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,040
evidence i've heard a lot of claims like

3044
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:28,960
that i guess the other question that

3045
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:31,040
i've been asking everybody recently is

3046
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:32,000
that

3047
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,599
in the past year or two there have been

3048
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,679
a lot of claims that disclosure is

3049
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,440
coming anytime

3050
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:40,239
soon or that there's a slow trickle of

3051
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:41,920
disclosure or that we're being

3052
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,360
acclimated

3053
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:45,920
to get ready for disclosure

3054
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:47,280
and so

3055
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:48,800
anybody that's really been following

3056
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:51,440
these things an interest in them

3057
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:53,280
has an interest in these things i've

3058
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:54,800
been asking

3059
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:57,119
do you think it's coming soon

3060
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:59,199
or that we're being acclimated or

3061
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:00,159
getting

3062
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:02,800
we've been

3063
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:07,040
being prepared for a long time

3064
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:08,960
and i think that they've

3065
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:11,520
they've tried to disclose a couple of

3066
01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:12,400
times

3067
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:14,480
and

3068
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:16,480
change our minds or other people of the

3069
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,639
government of over overrule the people

3070
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:21,119
who wanted to disclose

3071
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:22,800
and in my opinion the government will

3072
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:25,280
never disclose voluntarily it's going to

3073
01:53:30,070 --> 01:53:28,560
have to be the aliens disclosing or some

3074
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,080
catastrophic event happening that'll

3075
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:32,080
force them to this close but yeah i

3076
01:53:35,830 --> 01:53:33,360
don't think all of it ever disclosed by

3077
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,840
themselves and the fact is that

3078
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,520
that in a sense they already have

3079
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,880
disclosed

3080
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,639
all the information about this stuff is

3081
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:42,080
out there for people who want to do the

3082
01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:43,440
research

3083
01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:45,119
they just have not uh officially

3084
01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:47,280
confirmed it yeah i always i always

3085
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,880
think it's funny when somebody says

3086
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,719
there's no evidence for any kind of

3087
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:53,199
extraterrestrial visitation oh yeah

3088
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:55,840
please i mean the evidence is is

3089
01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:58,400
overwhelming that that that we're being

3090
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:02,159
visited by something or someone um

3091
01:54:05,189 --> 01:54:03,679
you could argue that you could argue

3092
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:05,199
that it's all uh

3093
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,510
there's a lot of evidence that

3094
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:18,960
because of the physical evidence and the

3095
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,280
ambiki reports uh point to at least some

3096
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:23,520
of the crap being alien

3097
01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:25,599
yeah i guess that's another question i

3098
01:54:29,189 --> 01:54:27,119
mean how many

3099
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:29,199
you hear a lot of claims that like maybe

3100
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:31,199
all of this is just top secret

3101
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:33,040
government projects that they don't they

3102
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:34,960
don't want to acknowledge or

3103
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:36,400
or disclose

3104
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:38,159
do you think that some of the ufos that

3105
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:39,679
people see are

3106
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:41,520
black projects

3107
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,280
or oh yeah definitely i think i think

3108
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:45,280
that a lot of them are a lot of the ufo

3109
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:48,080
people here are from black projects and

3110
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:50,400
my personal opinion is that about 30 of

3111
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:52,880
the sightings are from uh from

3112
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:55,199
secret space program uh

3113
01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:56,960
any gravity uh

3114
01:55:01,910 --> 01:55:00,239
uh hardcraft and the rest of the marilyn

3115
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:01,920
you know the other thing is kind of

3116
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,599
weird is like

3117
01:55:07,109 --> 01:55:05,520
from my own experience

3118
01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:07,119
in the city there's so much light

3119
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:08,880
pollution that you really don't know

3120
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:11,599
what's flying overhead and if you do you

3121
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:14,080
go it's it's very easily it's low flying

3122
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:16,080
it's very easily identifiable like okay

3123
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:18,400
that's a helicopter that's a

3124
01:55:21,669 --> 01:55:19,920
you know i live near the philadelphia

3125
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:21,679
international airport so we can see

3126
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:24,800
planes flying over my house every day

3127
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:26,960
and it's very obvious like okay that's a

3128
01:55:32,229 --> 01:55:30,159
you know that's a commercial jetliner or

3129
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:32,239
we i live right near the interstate too

3130
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:34,800
so we see helicopters all the time but a

3131
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:36,719
strange thing is that i have a cabin in

3132
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,080
the wilderness in the mountains of

3133
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:40,080
pennsylvania and

3134
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:41,679
it's a whole different

3135
01:55:47,109 --> 01:55:45,679
there i see things all the time and

3136
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:47,119
mostly i think they're satellites

3137
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:49,199
because the elevation is so high but

3138
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,880
it's still strange so you can go up

3139
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,360
there and see a whole different sky it's

3140
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:55,599
a whole different thing when the light

3141
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,280
pollution is gone

3142
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,520
you know

3143
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:01,280
well it's pretty easy to tell um a

3144
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:04,480
satellite from a um from the ufo in in

3145
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:06,400
general i mean um

3146
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:07,840
satellites

3147
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:11,760
cover a uh a certain trajectory and

3148
01:56:16,550 --> 01:56:14,400
do not maneuver or if they do it's just

3149
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:16,560
very slightly

3150
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:18,480
i've seen

3151
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:22,239
in orbit or they clearly seem to be

3152
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:23,840
spacecraft nor better at a very high

3153
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:25,440
altitude to do

3154
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:27,840
exotic maneuvers and kill the orbital

3155
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:30,000
velocity and start up again stuff like

3156
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:30,800
that

3157
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:32,400
just impossible to do with chemical

3158
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:34,480
fuels

3159
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:36,480
so i guess we touched on it before but i

3160
01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:37,199
guess

3161
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:39,360
to wrap up i would ask you

3162
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:40,719
you've you've spent a lot of time

3163
01:56:44,229 --> 01:56:42,400
studying these things

3164
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,239
especially the materials

3165
01:56:48,790 --> 01:56:46,560
and i i'd just like to know are you

3166
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:48,800
going to continue in that research what

3167
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:50,400
what are your plans going forward for

3168
01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:51,440
that for those of you yeah i'm

3169
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:52,320
definitely

3170
01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:53,199
going to

3171
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:54,800
continue in the research and i'm

3172
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,280
searching for a source of

3173
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,000
funding and

3174
01:57:05,189 --> 01:57:02,000
nothing's gonna stop me as long as i'm

3175
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:05,199
in good health and you know

3176
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:08,320
uh and still uh still kicking and i'm

3177
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:10,560
gonna go forward with this and i'm just

3178
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:12,159
i'm just looking for a source of funding

3179
01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:13,760
and trying to clean up some loose ends

3180
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,840
before i get going again and did you

3181
01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:17,280
want to share is there a way that

3182
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:18,639
somebody can contact you if they're

3183
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:21,760
interested in helping in that effort

3184
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,679
yeah um i've got a website and

3185
01:57:28,950 --> 01:57:27,360
i've got to do some work on it but it's

3186
01:57:30,629 --> 01:57:28,960
i think the donation button's still open

3187
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:30,639
and i'd appreciate any donations and

3188
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:33,119
they'll all be used for uh analyzing uh

3189
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:34,320
materials

3190
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:38,400
um and uh setting up to do so

3191
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:39,599
that that would be

3192
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,350
and

3193
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:52,669
my phone number is 805

3194
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:54,719
805-625-2549 for anybody that wants to

3195
01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:58,639
contact me to get an alien scan i can

3196
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:01,119
do stud finder and magnetometer scans

3197
01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:03,040
and

3198
01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:08,480
i've found quite a few implants on

3199
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:10,800
people that way so well that's great so

3200
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:12,800
there's help available for people who

3201
01:58:16,629 --> 01:58:15,280
think they have an implant

3202
01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:16,639
yeah

3203
01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:18,320
well i want to thank you very much for

3204
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:20,880
shedding some light on one of the most

3205
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:24,159
tantalizing subjects in this field i i

3206
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:25,599
can't thank you enough because you

3207
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:27,520
brought a real scientific

3208
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:29,040
mind to

3209
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:30,719
try to explain to some of our listeners

3210
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:32,480
some of this stuff and i want to thank

3211
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:34,880
you for joining us tonight you're

3212
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:36,960
my pleasure and oh they can also contact

3213
01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:39,760
me at by email at steve at

3214
01:58:48,709 --> 01:58:44,159
neutron star nanotech dot com

3215
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:48,719
okay excellent well thank you

3216
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:51,920
well my friends that music means that we

3217
01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:55,920
are nearing the end of our time together

3218
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,320
i want to thank you once again for

3219
01:59:02,709 --> 01:59:00,480
joining us and encourage you to check

3220
01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:02,719
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3221
01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:04,400
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3222
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:07,360
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3223
01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:12,790
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3224
01:59:17,109 --> 01:59:15,040
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3225
01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:17,119
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3226
01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:18,800
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3227
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:25,679
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3228
01:59:33,229 --> 01:59:30,800
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3229
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:33,239
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3230
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:35,119
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3231
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:37,119
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3232
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:40,639
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3233
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:42,400
until next time

3234
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:46,000
my name is stephen cambion also known as

3235
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:47,760
the mystery man

3236
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:49,280
good night folks

3237
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:51,599
and thank you so much

3238
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:55,520
for tuning in to share in my search